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12-23-2017, 03:21 AM | #41 | |||
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I'll keep to the techie/fishie stuff first.
The dying had to do with oxygen levels, not filtration. A waterfall helps (a bit) with mixing the water with oxygen. Another (usually cheap) solution is to use an airpump/special airstones at several places around the pond. In my case I don't need them - I have a waterfall too - because the difference will be summer temps. A decent pump would set you back about $150, you need some (very small diameter) tubing, and some air stones (cheap as dirt). It's what fish need most: they breathe through their gills and have to depend on the oxygen levels in the water. The hotter the air/water, the less oxygen is saturated, so that's where the air stones/air pump would come in. A filtration system in itself does NOT add oxygen (in fact, some systems actually use us oxygen as the bacteria need them to convert the bad stuff (ammonia (aka pee ) into nitrite and then into nitrate. Sorry to get technical, but it's important as that world is full of idiot merchants. Fish gasping? Add pump/airstones/keep waterfall running, problem finished in 15 minutes. I've seen some of the pictures, but it's hard to be sure. There are quite a few "butterfly koi" -> the one with the "wavy" tails? Those are usually not considered "valuable" (in koi freak money terms). But you might still find people who want to pay a bit of money. The pond is also overcrowded as hell. Ideally, you need at least 1m3 per grown up koi (so, a 1000 liters). But preferably more. The pond also needs to be DEEP before BIG. Shallower water heats up quicker -> quicker to lose oxygen when it gets hot too. Deeper water keeps cooler. (and also warmer in winter: did you know that in freezing weather water (even with ice on it) at -2meter will still be around 4°C?) The pump... OK, there it's getting weird. Oase you say? Yeah, German company, German quality, best in class. My main 15000 liter/hour pump is in it's 18th season (I don't run it between November/March) without a glitch, and... without ever having to take it out of the water or cleaning it! Oh, did I mention it's an Oase? A pump should just feed the water to a filtration system, leave the debris through (up to 2 cm), and in case of Oase run forever and ever. I have NEVER EVER had to go into the water to touch the pump (OK, I lie, once in 2012 to change it's place a little). Having to go into the water to clean a pump is madness. I hope whoever did that did not get paid. Grrrr. I don't know the other system you now have, but I'm afraid DB has been duped, sorry. The disease has nothing to do with the type of pump, but with water at a very specific temperature. Not an issue here, but I can imagine it is in Oz. Anyway: in that pond, even with a 24 hour outage, goldfish (not bundles OK? just 10 or so?) will survive without any problems. ESPECIALLY if you keep a air stone or 2 running all day long (instead of a filtration system). Look, I know you are overwhelmed with info, so I'll follow up with a summary post - but be assured all the above is 100% accurate. Quote:
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12-23-2017, 03:41 AM | #42 | |||
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Synopsis.
1) Get rid of the many fish -> like said before. 2) Remove all pumps (or just shut them off) 3 Except one pump that would directly feed the waterfall. That one would just be a pump in a housing, a big hose to the waterfall, done, zero maintenance. 4) Get 10 goldfish, small ones. Warning: they breed (really Wide-O? ) 5) Get an air pump. A decent one. Get a Hi Blow Air 80 (ltrs per minute), a plastic distributor (so you can hang 10 small hoses on it, some transparent hose (10 or 20 meters) and a few air stones that connect to those hoses. (no, I have to financial interest in air pump brands LOL, but I dare to show this recommendation to every koi owner in the world) See picture for how it looks (contains wrong brand of pump, but shows you what you would end up with) just focus on pump/distributor/hoses Hoses attach to stones like these: 6) keep that running all year as long as temps are > 12°C 7) may need maintenance every 2 years, which means open up and install new standard part (the "vibrator" for want of a better word) of the air pump (which, for all clarity, is out of the water in a dry place). And you are done. Zero maintenance, happy goldfish. Cost? About $200 for air pump/hoses/stones. Never ever again wade into the pond. |
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12-23-2017, 03:46 AM | #43 | |||
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Sorry for all the info. It's just that it COULD be simple, and I hate people being sold ******** for a lot of their hard earned money. So I have to show my "credentials" in that area before my advice will be accepted. The end result (I hope) is that Pam would still have a nice pond with a few happy goldfish and ZERO maintenance/stress. A guy like me could set it up in 3 hours and be done forever (flight to Oz not included. ) And with a bit of luck the sale from the fish would more than cover the cost of the air pump. And she would save on electricity bill... |
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12-23-2017, 11:35 AM | #44 | |||
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If I may The things that mean most Your sanity serenity spirit strength space all in your control In your time Not a time for anymore information about the girl His feelings are not yours anymore Cleaning house inside as you handle literally cleaning house on the outside a good thing Only for you and your physical capabilities in the long run cost My point you have decision you make for the better of you It not so quick and easy sometimes But you my dear are doing it You be the only one to call the shots He lost his privileges there Since hearing of you situation Three more stories all identical and two of the three are doing well under such circumstances And to make the decision with children involved Is awesome to see But the one who needs that someone to define herself as a woman is killing herself and hurting herself in addition to pain she is already going through hoping for her choice to remove the pain of infidelity by substance is making things so much worse I fear for her with all my being I just want to shake her Stop using this as an excuse She matters And his hold on her is based on crap Get it Has no substance Yet who the hell sm I to say what one needs But I think you understand my point We We Need to love who we are striving to be And isn’t that the best in all we do So how can one not get that not in our time We are doing all we can not hurting anyone around us by the choices we make And for the others more power to you Heavenly Father never let us down We have it in us As ill as we are We have a brain that is working just great So don’t even try and go there May it be a favor It is still your business You call the shots Empowering That’s what you do Love Me
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12-25-2017, 09:35 PM | #45 | |||
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Christmas Day been and gone, he visited gave me my gift, played with the pets, took the older dogs for a walk, and spoke again of wanting to try to move forward with counselling. Wants us to buy a new house and start afresh. I listened offering few words. He showed me houses on the internet, has already been looking. My Xmas card “to my wife” made reference to hope we can work things out, mine on the other hand, “to my friend”, hope you find what you wanted in 2018. My gift to him, small but a reminder of his roots and all that he once valued.
I said to him, shave your beard and post a clean shaven photo on FB. You re-grew your beard because she wanted you to (she wanted him to look like her father but he doesn’t get that) and the photo you have is of you with beard and the night of your award. His response was I’m not shaving my beard for anyone. I replied if you want to take steps to repairing our marriage shaving your beard is a very small step, it can be re-grown within a month, our 25 year marriage cannot be repaired in that time. But it’s a step you need to take. And I won’t entertain anything you say until I see evidence you are prepared to offer more than words. Forgive me when I think for your words are meaningless. I reminded him again when he left, shave your beard and I’ll consider counselling. He has expressed his remorse but right now it means nothing. I still care for him and I do wonder if we will sort things out, but if he can’t go through with a small “test” then I don’t need to wonder at all.
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12-26-2017, 12:16 AM | #46 | ||
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Pam,
It would appear as if you are testing and using the beard as an issue in order to take the first step toward a possible reconciliation. Has he mentioned giving her up before doing any counseling? You are very vulnerable right now; please take your time. Wish all the best for you.. Gerry |
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12-26-2017, 02:21 AM | #47 | |||
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Pam, I think that Gerry has offered you wise thoughts.
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12-26-2017, 05:31 PM | #48 | |||
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Only fools rush in, and I am not a fool. As things stand, I can’t see a breakthrough. I’m lonely & scared but those 2 things combined are not going to push me back to a relationship.
I’m mindful though of something I have personally encountered over the years of pain Mgt and psychs and my sister who is a nurse voiced it on Xmas eve, her exact words were psychs just encourage you to leave, they will give you workbooks on how to leave, they don’t give workbooks on how to work to save the relationship. And ironically it’s true. My psych has given me 2 books to “leave” the relationship & I understand db psych has been telling him to leave me for the last 2 years. So in all, perhaps we are neither destined to work it out. I do believe in féte and the inevitable. I can forgive a once in a life time indiscretion, I can’t forgive ongoing lies and deceit.
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12-26-2017, 07:20 PM | #49 | |||
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Well I’ve made a decision to do something I’ve never done before, or considered before. With my constant pain companion and these last months emotional trauma, not limited to just db, surgery and complications included, I’ve asked my mum to accompany me to a cosmetic practice for a consult on dermal fillers for the bag under my right eye in particular. It’s so much more noticeable than the one on the left and maybe ask about the big wrinkle indent in between my eyebrows.
I’ve never done anything electively and I’m not going for a surgical procedure where they knock me out, I just want to consider the possibility of something that will boost my confidence and dermal fillers seem to be an option. If I look better, I will feel better. I look tired and drained and I don’t feel professional in my job anymore. I feel the injured staff looking at me and thinking how can I get better with her help, she looks worse than I do... And I’m going to go to the dentist and enquire about braces to bring my teeth back into alignment so the gap between my 2 front teeth stops getting bigger. I have a problem with my jaw, since my late teens and can’t open my mouth wide and with all my back and gynea problems I just hoped it would go away. My mum spent a fortune on her children’s teeth, me included and I had braces at the age of 12. Big silver shiny things, but now they are clear & barely noticeable. I have top health cover atm & now is probably the time to get my teeth done while I can still afford the top cover. I might be eligible for a Medicare rebate as well because of my jaw. Whew, I’m glad I have written it down, that’s a step towards me looking after me. I won’t be spending $25k like db did, but I think it’s an important step for me to think about me. The cosmetic I may not be brave enough to do, but it doesn’t hurt to enquire.
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12-26-2017, 09:39 PM | #50 | ||
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Pam,
YEA...... .....So glad Pam is thinking of Pam. I definitely agree; had a bit done myself some time back. It did help me feel better about myself. And;most important,it builds up your confidence. You go for it.....It starts with enquiring so that's the first step.....keep it going.. We're rooting for you... Gerry. Last edited by ger715; 12-27-2017 at 01:10 AM. |
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