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09-24-2006, 06:53 AM | #1 | |||
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed
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This just backs up my reasons for learning to bake with cooked rice rather than the contaminated rice flour that is traditionally accepted as being gf.
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09-24-2006, 07:05 AM | #2 | ||
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Wiad Lek. 2002;55(9-10):554-60. Links
[Individual sensitivity of jejunal mucosa to small doses of gluten in coeliac disease ] [Article in Polish] * Rujner J, * Socha J, * Romanczuk W, * Stolarczyk A, * Wozniewicz B, * Gregorek H, * Madalinski K, * Syczewska M. Instytutu Pomnik-Centrum Zdrowia Dziecka w Warszawie. In coeliac patients the age of development of symptoms, clinical picture of the disease and complications depend on the dose of ingested gluten. The aim of the study was the evaluation of individual sensitivity to small doses of gluten in the group of 60 patients aged 2.65 to 17.92 (mean age 7.49) treated with gluten-free diet for at least 12 months due to coeliac disease diagnosed according to ESPGAN criteria (food allergy to gluten excluded). Gluten challenge with dose of 10 mg/kg body mass/day was controlled with serological tests (IgAEmA, IgAAGA, and IgGAGA antibodies) carried out every 3 to 6 months. Jejunal biopsy was performed before gluten challenge (normal mucosa), and after positive EmA/AGA antibodies tests to confirm diagnosis (flat mucosa). After 35 months of observation 53.7% of all patients presented of jejunal villious atrophy, and positive IgAEmA. In this group 3.7% presented symptoms after 3 months of gluten challenge, 5.5% after 6 months, 3.7% after 9 months, and 3.7% after 12 months. In some coeliac patients ingestion of small amounts of gluten (10 mg/kg/day) can lead to small intestinal villious atrophy. PMID: 12607410 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Kind regards, KimS formerly pakisa 100 at BT 01/02/2002 Even Small Amounts of Gluten Cause Relapse in Children With Celiac Disease (Docguide.com) 12/20/2002 The symptomatic and histologic response to a gf diet with borderline enteropathy (Docguide.com) |
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09-24-2006, 11:35 PM | #3 | ||
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You've taken it farther than me. Guess I'll have to get a grinder for Christmas. You don't worry about contamination in the rice as well as contamination in the rice flour?
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09-25-2006, 06:54 AM | #4 | ||
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If it is contaminated, it is not to the same degree as rice flour (because of the gluten in the commercial mills). We know this because ds will get car sick (throws up) if we feed him a flour based rice product and then go for about a 45 minute ride (he throws up about 1/2 an hour into the journey). However, he can eat a whole bowl of rice and not be sick at all. (Also, it says 'may contain trace amounts of wheat' on the bag of rice flour.)
I don't grind my rice up, I just cook it and reduce the liquids used. I'm still working on a lot of stuff but am not being too impatient because we don't really need a whole lot of grain in our diets.
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09-25-2006, 09:02 PM | #5 | ||
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Kim, your link http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed takes me to the Pubmed homepage I have had that problem recently too. Can you post the PubMed # and then we can put that into the search. Is there another way to get there that is easier?
At Dr. Fine's meeting this past spring there was a physician who spoke and said that all grains are cross contaminated. He even included quinoa and teff - I would think that these would have very little chance of coming in contact with wheat but what do I know Anne |
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09-25-2006, 10:59 PM | #6 | |||
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I think this is the link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum Quote:
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09-26-2006, 07:49 AM | #7 | ||
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Thanks Al... that's the one. Sorry about that link, Anne.
I think the thing is that there are so many different levels of 'sensitivity'. In our family dd and I don't react to commercial rice flour (or I should say, don't seem to) but dh and ds do react... So, the trick is to cook toward to the most sensitive person in the house, thereby protecting everyone from illness. (There's no way I'm baking one batch of cookies from comm. rice flour and another batch from rice!) I know that there are many people who can't tolerate any grain at all. Sometimes I suspect my son of being one of them... but if I can figure out how to, reasonably safely, give him cookies once a week, that he enjoys so much... then I will do it. Sometimes I think it's actually an allergy that he has (besides?) celiac. I've heard that people with gluten allergies have to be 'more' careful.
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