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Chemar 05-07-2007 10:26 AM

dont ya guys like us here:(

why move???...we love having you here and I think we have proved we try to be very accomodating.

if there is anything you would like us to do to make this a good "home" forum for you...just ask :) If it is doable...it will be done!

and as you have noticed, DocJohn here takes real good care to keep us up an running:D

aklap 05-07-2007 10:32 AM

Why move? limited editing time on posts...that's my big problem. Plain and simple. We fought for it once, it stayed for a few months. Then it was gone. Unless edit time can be adjusted per user, I don't see that changing.

We are probably unique in how we use these boards. It acts as database for us. We are constantly updating info - and to have to ask a mod to have our posts updated - just doesn't cut it.

Chemar 05-07-2007 10:49 AM

Al
has anyone PMd Doc about your unique needs here?

It is hard on the editing as, where we sure understand members who use it in good ways, like yourselves, we also sadly have those who use it in ways that make an enormous load of work for the mods trying to keep spam and battles off the boards.

but, as mentioned before, Doc is always willing to hear member concerns directly (He is just a PM away) . Sometimes posts can lose impact in long discussion threads, but a PM, clearly outlining the probelems you have re the edit time, sent to any admin or direct to Doc can help clarify the needs of a forum/member and Doc can weigh in on how the impact is for the community as a whole.

I cant speak for Doc re his decision on things, but I can assure you he takes legitimate member concerns and problems seriously

Cheri

Jomar 05-07-2007 10:56 AM

Another option for edit & updating info
- place the new or updated info as a new post/thread, then when searched for it will come up before the older info post.
Or if the older info is fairly recent you can quote it and make the correction or updates that way.

KimS 05-07-2007 10:56 AM

This is a nice place. Like I said, I'll be staying.

I don't care for the lack of editing abilities but I do like that I don't feel like I've got to watch every word I say, the way I feel over at BT, which is why I don't post there very much anymore.

Chemar, it's really not personal... there's a fair group of us that have been hanging out together for quite a few years. Since the big BT crash, most of us, though we've stayed in contact with eachother, have had a hard time settling anywhere and we all seem to be pining for somewhere that we can do so as a complete group again... the way we used to be.

This has more to do with the amount of data and research (and recipes geared to diff. sensitivities) we had accumulated over the years (to share with people who wanted to know more than just "Do I need to get new pots?"). It was an enormous collection that has not yet been seen anywhere else on the net. We were, I think, 'literally' dumbfounded with our loss.

This has left us in a position where we have not been able to trust anyone else with our data and though we continue to research, it is at less than 1/2 the vigour with which we used to collect abstracts and articles to pontificate over re: validity; applicability to daily life, etc.

Quote:

Another option for edit & updating info
- place the new or updated info as a new post/thread, then when searched for it will come up before the older info post.
Or if the older info is fairly recent you can quote and make the correction or updates that way.
This is a great suggestion and I appreciate the spirit in which it was offered. However, it doesn't work for us re: our 'collections' and conversations. You see, when new people came in to our section and started posting 'conversation', we used to be able to ask them to start a new thread for that and delete their one conv. post so that our data files stayed relatively neat and tidy. It would all just be too scattered to do a new post every single time... and then difficult when discussion takes place to allocate, and refer to for example, eight, different threads.

I hope that explains a bit why some of us 'oldies' are still stewing and holding onto old resentments... and the fact that they don't really have much to do with this place at all. On the contrary, we were happy to see 'brain' people who need support, have somewhere else to go. :)

Curious 05-07-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklap (Post 96026)
Why move? limited editing time on posts...that's my big problem. Plain and simple. We fought for it once, it stayed for a few months. Then it was gone. Unless edit time can be adjusted per user, I don't see that changing.

We are probably unique in how we use these boards. It acts as database for us. We are constantly updating info - and to have to ask a mod to have our posts updated - just doesn't cut it.


hi al :)

i know when new info comes out ( research data and such) editing old posts is important. but when that is done...nobody really knows the post has new info. it doesn't bump that post up. kwim? not very many old timers go back and check old posts unless they are researching something.

quoting the old post and making the changes will bring it to the top.

KimS 05-07-2007 11:59 AM

I guess the point is, though, that it's not JUST research... we do much more than that... and we've found it cumbersome, at best, not to have edit and delete abilities re: posts.

I won't belabour this topic any longer because we did have our say earlier when everyone at this site had their say... the end result is that this place has decided not to allow edits or deleting of posts. Fair enough.

It just doesn't work that well for us.:rolleyes: That's life... and now we've got to decide what we're going to do.

aklap 05-07-2007 12:04 PM

Yup - I know exactly what you mean. IMO - that's way too messy.

Perfect example: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=2078

When there's a new item to add to this, I will edit it and put it in is proper place - then add a new post stating there was an update. As you can see the last 2 adds where just tacked on to the end - that can be easily missed because it's not with the others. I wasn't going to bother the Mods for edit.

If I had to quote this 1st post each time - it'd be a huge mess to read. Plus - way too big!!

jccgf 05-07-2007 12:19 PM

We had built an empire of informative posts that we frequently updated and kept linked in indexes~ always at our fingertips when we wanted them.

We've tried explaining many times and many ways why editing is important to us... so I won't re-hash all that, but we just can't recreate what we had at BT without the ability to re-enter old posts and continually update them. We haven't even begun to try to recreate here what we once had. At first because motivation was low, and now, because we couldn't even if we wanted to.

Then, the split was very difficult on the group as a whole, period. We all had different experiences at BT, and different interpretations of each other's experiences there...but the bottom line... is that some people felt eager to start a new home here and others felt more at home at BT.... and some didn't care where we were, but they wanted the group together.

I don't really feel at home anywhere anymore :(. I still read here and there, and I spent this morning at celiac.com forums. I'm sort of blowing in the wind... trying to hang out wherever most of us seem to be.

Kim, I haven't changed my mind that broader based forums reach a wider audience of people who wouldn't even know to suspect gluten sensitivity. Most of the hits to The Gluten File come from google searches... and often times from things one wouldn't necessarily connect to celiac disease or food sensitivity... so at least that is good.

Anyway, I still long for what we once had... but I'm not sure I see the road back :(.

Cara

rachelb 05-07-2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jccglutenfree (Post 96097)
I don't really feel at home anywhere anymore :(. I still read here and there, and I spent this morning at celiac.com forums. I'm sort of blowing in the wind... trying to hang out wherever most of us seem to be.

This is how I am except that I never went back to BT. I was just waaaay too burned by them to do so.

I honestly don't know what the solution is for us. I find the celiac.com forums a nice place, but it's not quite right. This place, too, has never seemed quite right.

Rachel


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