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Old 07-18-2007, 03:59 PM #1
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Can you tell me, if someone has Celiac disease, can they still take vitamin C? or for some reason would that be a bad idea? like it might be painful, or something.

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It's a thought provoking question. I don't think I have ever heard that someone with celiac disease should not take vitamin C.

Vitamin C can be rough on the stomach, though, so I suppose it follows that someone with celiac disease might be even more sensitive. Although by definition, celiac disease affects the small intestines... it can do damage throughout the body. Gluten sensitivity is also known to cause lymphocytic gastritis....and those with celiac disease often have trouble eating anything without distress until they have healed up some. I've heard that aloe vera juice can be helpful in healing, for example.

I'd imagine one should take vitamin C with food (?), and cut back back if they notice unpleasant symptoms...and try again after they have had 6-12 months to heal? I'd imagine some forms of vitamin C are easier to tolerate, too. I've heard of buffered C, for example.

I'm guessing here, really! My opinion here would be that it is ok to take unless not tolerated, but that would be an individual thing.

I haven't had a chance to look through these recently, but maybe you will find some more info among these links:
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Thank you, JCC.

I'll go to the link you provided. I appreciate it.

I failed in my original question to explain why I wanted to know.

I did a web page quite some time ago on Magnesium after I learned that it was nearly as hard to absorb as vitamin B12. I read, while doing research, that in order for our bodies to use magnesium that we take as a supplement, we have to have sufficient gastric acid... and failing that, that we should take it with hydrochloric acid or vitamin C.

I would guess that vitamin C works because it is ascorbic acid.

Well, off to read from the link you so kindly provided.

Here's the link to my magnesium page, "Foods-Containing-Magnesium":
http://www.health-boundaries-bite.co...Magnesium.html
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Well, that wasn't as "conclusive" as I'd hoped.

The one article suggested vitamin C, another did not.

The one article suggested a lot of calcium supplementation, and not as much magnesium....

I'm not surprised that there's so much lee way... so much disparity... it seems as if in most things experts are not in total agreement.

So it goes.


Have you personally any experience with vitamin C and magnesium???
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My daughter throws up when I give her vitamin C... so I haven't done it in a long time. Some people do have a citric acid sensitivity... it seems fairly common in gluten sensitive people. Like Cara said though, it might just be a time healing gut thing.

I know that I seem to require magnesium more than calcium. I've not isolated why but I've tested and retested myself and I just do better when I'm supplementing it. Of course, it's pretty clear that I had a fair amount of malabsorptive damage going on previous to going gluten (and other things) free.

I think there's such a wide range of possibilities with professionals because there is such a wide range of people with different requirements and reactions.

For example, I do so *much* better with evening primrose oil on so many levels. But two other women I know with the same types of symptoms I have, do worse on it. It's all very individual and leaves people in a state of unbalance because they don't know what to do. It's a real conundrum.
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Hi KimS,

What an interesting answer... especially on the level of individuality.

It's so important, I think, for people to get to know themselves.

I was so lucky my neurologist told me to keep a Time Line. I saw him because of the B12 deficiency nerve damage I had.

By means of the Time Line I was able to look back and see what I had experienced.

It sounds so strange to say that... but there is a tendency, at least with me, to remember things not as accurately as a written record.

Oh dear, I don't think I'm writing clearly.


The other thing I wanted to mention/ask about was when Cara said that buffered vitamin C might be better...

does that mean with magnesium?

I just recently learned that "buffered" aspirin is aspirin to which there has been added magnesium.

so does anything that's "buffered" have magnesium added to it?????
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I'd have to go look what they use to "buffer" C. I just remember noting they have it, and I considered it because my daughter was having trouble tolerating C, but she was taking a lot at the time.

Her integrative medicine doctor suggested 1-3 grams of C twice a day, right up to the point of slight softening of the stool..morning and night. He liked magnesium glycinate as being most absorbable... 500-600mg for her. I think we settled on 1 gram daily of C because that is all she seemed to tolerate.

I googled buffered C, and pulled this up from the Whole Foods site~ looks like they may buffer it with different things. We never tried the buffered C. I had bought chewable C thinking she'd be more likely to take it, but she didn't like the flavor and I think I later read it could be bad for dental enamel... and she already had problems there. I remembered thinking "next time"... we'd try buffered.

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Buffered versions of vitamin C are also commonly available. These buffered forms usually combine vitamin C with minerals like calcium, magnesium, or potassium. Buffered vitamin C may be helpful for individuals who have stomach sensitivity, or who are taking higher doses of the supplement.
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I just copied much of the Nelson article and sent it to my son in London.

The pictures of the skin condition reminded me of what he has and has been controlling with the steroid creams.

The article was especially interesting to me because of its mention of urticaria... I used to have it really badly when I was in college.

However I learned from going to the University nurse that lots of students had it around test time.

She prescribed Actifed for all of us... it worked great for me.

Once I learned that, though, I realized I was stressed (I don't think it was the tests for me, for me there were other things). And once I recognized that, well... I stopped getting it.

In London I knew a woman who had it so badly on her face that it was hard to look at her, because of the disfigurement and the look of pain.

She and her husband, he from a quite well-to-do family and she from a missionary family had adopted two little black kids. The kids ran circles around their parents...

One day when my son and I were to tea at their house, which backed onto Regent's Canal, I told her that I had been great friends with one of the black Green Bay Packers in their days of winning the Super Bowl under Vince Lombardi, and that I had thought about what it would be like to be a mixed race couple.

After that, the woman's urticaria was less visible on her face...

or maybe having made "contact" with her on such a basic level, I simply wasn't able to see it so much any more.

But I think, that in reality when someone talked to her about mixed race families, that it relieved some of the stress...



Thanks so much for the gluten info.

Really appreciate it.
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I've been thinking about the woman I knew... and I think I didn't describe our tea conversation very well.

When we were talking I told her what I'd thought about her, before I knew her. Because in our neighborhood you'd tend to see people, because it was a small Islington neighborhood.

So I think she may well have been wondering if people thought she was in a mixed marriage... millions of questions. So when I told her what I thought, then it pinned down what at least one person had thought... and it sort of deflated some of her worries.

That's what I think happened. I don't think it was me dispensing words of wisdom, or anything.

Gosh, what a long time ago that was.

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