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09-02-2006, 10:07 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi all, recently cut the dairy from my diet because of stomach aches. Well you people were right again, there almost all gone. It will be 3 weeks this monday.
I did try and have milk in my coffee, twice and noticed the stomach upset about hr or so after. Rice milk seems to have a bitter after flavour, don't like So I tried goats milk. Been having it in coffee and I did have some cereal with it. Is this ok? I read that goats milk has a different protien than cows, and isn't that what I'm trying to avoid? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I really don't mind the goats milk, actually I think I like it better than cows. Thanks, Patricia |
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09-03-2006, 03:30 AM | #2 | ||
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Hi patricia
I did the switch to goats milk a year ago after a suggestion from my doctor that I try A2 milk or goats milk ...... I had never thought I had a problem with cows milk but once I stopped having it I find I get problems from even a bit of butter or cheese goats milk has the A2 type of casein and the A1 type causes allergy for many people ....... jersey cows give A2 milk but most give A1 ( this is not generally known in the USA but there has been quite a bit of discussion here in australia and in some places you can buy A2 milk - I posted some links at braintalk will try and find them again for you ) but back to the goats - we couldnt find anywhere nearby to buy goats milk so we bought a goat now we have 2 does we milk and 2 kids from last year who are having their first birthday today we make our own soft cheese, kefir, yogurt, butter and even goats milk icecream and we find goats are wonderful pets as well regards kozz |
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09-03-2006, 10:49 AM | #3 | |||
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Ah neat! I think goats are so sweet. Always loved the "kids" in the county fair.
I'm still thinking on the casein alergy thing myself. The interesting thing is, there are 20 different proteins in cow milk, no consensus on which one is the problem. http://www.allergyclinic.co.nz/guides/43.html Quote:
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Haven't figured that one out yet, but I suspect if you're intolerant to one type of casein, you can't escape it by drinking another sort of milk. |
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09-03-2006, 05:55 PM | #4 | ||
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some more info on A2 milk
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and this one specifically compares BCM & to gluten ( I have bolded the part ) Quote:
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09-03-2006, 06:43 PM | #5 | ||
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Hi nancy
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but we all know the cows milk producers are a very powerful group and more people in the world drink goats milk than do cows milk kozz |
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09-03-2006, 07:34 PM | #6 | |||
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So what if casein is not your problem with dairy, nor lactose? There is something in dairy that I seem to react to that is beyond lactose. I can eat the fake cheeses that have casein, no problem. I can also eat ghee, which has all the milk solids removed. I have tested negative for goat dairy with muscle testing, so I haven't ever tried any of the goat dairy products recently, though I love goat cheese!
I went out to dinner recently, and had pork chop marsala at Carrabba's even though they cooked the sauce in butter. I love this dish and couldn't resist. Very soon after, I could feel my sinuses producing mucus and feeling irritated, so I'm definitely getting somekind of reaction from the dairy. It did clear up pretty quickly though. I'm also curious what the hormone contents of goat dairy are compared to cow dairy, and I'm not talking about growth hormones. Usually, dairy has elevated estrogens and progesterones from the lactating animal. Or, sometimes these hormones are given to animals to produce milk at times they normally wouldn't be lactating. I can't have any introduced female hormones because of my body's tendency towards uterine fibroids. These hormones just make the fibroids grow. Now I'm remembering that I did research goat dairy, and came to the conclusion that I couldn't get around the estrogen/progesterone problem with goats compared to cows. I really wish I could have dairy again, but I think I'll wait until menopause! I really don't want to have another surgery to remove fibroids if I can help it! Claire |
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09-04-2006, 06:15 AM | #7 | ||
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I have been touting goat milk for about 3 years (almost 4 ) after realizing that dd reacted to cow dairy.
However, I began to suspect she was still reacting, albeit much less, many months ago. It took a while to go dairy free so that we could challenge her and get a clear picture of reaction. However, this summer, after 3 months off all dairy, she went to stay at Granny's for a week and sufferred enuresis. They admitted that they fed her goat dairy even after I told them not to let her have ANY! SHEESH... Like someone else said on another thread, "I know, I know better." So we're off all dairy and starting over and will probably rechallenge after Christmas to make sure that they didn't feed her cow dairy but wouldn't admit it because they were already in trouble about the goat dairy and trying to feed her off a gluten BBQ (she corrected them on that before she got glutened - Thank goodness!). I must say though, that both children seemed to have had an enormous growth spurt since we have been off all dairy which is unusual in the summer after the winter wheat has been taken off and the children seem to slow in growth (in previous years). Hmmmm!! Lots to think about.
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Kind regards, KimS formerly pakisa 100 at BT 01/02/2002 Even Small Amounts of Gluten Cause Relapse in Children With Celiac Disease (Docguide.com) 12/20/2002 The symptomatic and histologic response to a gf diet with borderline enteropathy (Docguide.com) |
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09-04-2006, 03:01 PM | #8 | ||
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Thanks Kozz for all that info. I really wondered about this, because it is termed the foster milk, all animals can eat goats milk, but really only cows can eat cows milk. The greeks raised it to the heavens because of this, or so I've read.
Seems I found my own answer though, yesterday had a really bad stomach ach all day, my body totally aches all over, and I pretty much feel ughhhh!!!!!!!!! Mind you, this took about 4 days to appear !So back to no dairy, sniff I guess I'll quite coffee too, don't like it black, whats next............... Another things is I think I was also glutened with dental whitener. You know the stuff you paint on your teeth. Never even thought till after using it three times, then of course its to late, and I'm wondering what is the gel made from. Of course no ingredients, makes me mad they don't put on common food allergian on the package, yet I'm sure if peanuts were used they would. So I make a note to self "never stick anything in mouth with out first thinking" I'm pretty sure it was the milk, but I don't think I'll use the whitener till I know more. Anyways thanks everyone, I guess its back to the basics, Patricia |
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