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Old 09-06-2006, 08:57 AM #1
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Default Mag/B6/ ADHD

Improvement of neurobehavioral disorders in children supplemented with magnesium-vitamin B6. I. Attention deficit hyperactivity disorders. PMID: 16846100 Mar 2006

Moreover, there were such biochemical alterations as a decrease of magnesium level in the plasma and erythrocytes and a reduction of Mg(2+)-ATPase activity. The use of MAGNE-B6 allowed us to correct many of the disturbances
[Neurological aspect of clinical symptoms, pathophysiology and correction in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder] PMID: 16548369 2006


CONCLUSION: This open study indicates that hyperexcitable children have low ERC-Mg with normal serum Mg(2+) values, and that Mg(2+)/vitamin B6 supplementation can restore normal ERC-Mg levels and improve their abnormal behavior.
Magnesium VitB6 intake reduces central nervous system hyperexcitabiliy in children.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:02 AM #2
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Default Mag and B6

This was timely. I am still struggling with my son and his problems at school. You wouldn't have access to the full article, would you? I am curious as to what the dosage was.

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The first link listed the dosage used:

6 mg/kg/d Mg, 0.6 mg/kg/d vit-B6

Which translates to:

6 mg per kg of weight of the child a day of magnesium and .6 mg per kg of weight of the child a day of Vitamin B6

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Thank you "Dr." Rachel! I know we are all incredibly deficient in Mag/B vits and have been contemplating adding it to his nightly supplements. Bless his heart...he is tired of popping pills and fights me.

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I was curious about dosages, too. Just looking at the abstracts, the third one said 100 mg per day. I'm assuming that meant 100 mg of EACH per day? It didn't say anything about body weight. The second didn't mention dosage at all. I was kind of surprised to see in the first that the B6 was 10% of the Mg amount.

Tom has epilepsy. At one point, I asked his neuro about vitamin supplementation to try and prevent seizures. He said that magnesium and vit B6 were "calming to the brain" and recommended 50 mg each. (At the time, Tom was 30 pounds.) Those were the only two he mentioned. (Well, he also recommended a good multi-vitamin because Tom was taking an AED at the time. The B6 and Mg were above and beyond his usual recommendations.)
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Sorry, I don't have access to the full text~

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Default How much Mg to take?

The instructions from my chiropractor about Mg supplementation was to take as much as my body could tolerate. You know when you are taking too much because you will get loose stools. 600 to 800 mg is about my range - that's about 5 mg per pound. Split the dosage and take with meals.

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This is amazingly interesting! I am sending it to my sister...Grace
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Cara,
Do you remember Mrs.D's posts about Magesium? I know there are types of Magnesium that are not absorbed into the body and cause diarrea. And there are types that are absorbed. The neuropathy forum had this info on the old site. I can't remember for sure which was which.
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We've lost so much in the old forums .

I know that Mag Ox is NOT the kind of magnesium to take. I can't remember what form mrsd suggests.

The doctor who helped set up my daughter's regimen told us to take Magnesium Glycinate.
Carlson has magnesium glycinate, although I have found it cheaper on other sites than on their own. There are a few other manufacturers as well, but you will have to look for it (like methylcobalamin and P5P... not always found at the grocery store).

Klaire lab has a P5P plus product that contains P5P plus magnesium glycinate. One stop shopping. This is actually the product that was recommended to us, and the capsules are nice and small. The Carlson labs magnesium glycinate are horse pills. You should be able to locate either by googling around a bit.

My mom's doctor had her on 800mg daily of magnesium oxide, and she was still showing up low. I gave her a bottle of the magnesium glycinate....and she did great with it. It was obviously better absorbed.

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