Please realise and not forget that we can solve so many of our problems with drugs. I haven't read the other forum but there are two sides to the coin "chemicals and feeling good". For those of you who know my story, the end result is the same. 2 versus 25

With so many of our chronic diseases, depression included, I just have to think there's something underlying it all. Personally, I think we're eating a diet we're not really evolved to eat. Whenever you look at the primitive societies that don't eat a lot of agricultural products they're not dying of the diseases we have.

Agreed, wheat especially. At every turn I'm learning something else about this grain that is not good for our bodies.

Wow, Matilda seems to be a Cara clone! Very knowledgable.

(I'm going back and reading the older posts in that thread I missed.)

Ok, I give up. Can't find the thread. Directions anyone? I want to wh---Board around.
Leslie

Hope it's ok to post a link.

Here it is:
http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index...opic=23511&hl=

Yeah, me too. Mom... they're trying to ditch me again.

Editted to Add: Cross-post with mle_ii

This was also a good discussion:
http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index...opic=23411&hl=

Sorry, I should have posted the link. I didn't mean anyone to be left out!

Hi Cara,

Oh boy! You can lead a horse to water...

I bet the resident guy in that other (Celiac Disease) forum, has not yet read Dr. Fine's article, "Before the Villi are gone", and, at this time, it sure seems like he has his mind firmly made up (without reading what Dr. Fine has written) to be against Dr. Fine's EnteroLab testing, perhaps for his own psychological needs.

This reminds me of a conversation I once had with an oncologist (cancer doc), who was convinced that eating a MacDonald's diet, was a healthy diet (!). He told me that he didn't want to know about anything that could cause cancer, if it wasn't in his medical books, because he just didn't want to change his outlook.

A lack of being open to new ideas, is one of the downfalls of our medical system.

When I first made my website about VCD (vocal cord dysfunction), I was also looking at the condition in a very narrow light. It was annoying to have to open my mind--it would take so much effort and work. Luckily, it was more frustrating to NOT look at a broader view of VCD. So, I gave in, and expanded my mind. As a result, my website grew.

Now, I'm getting more and more people telling me that they finally stopped having VCD attacks, ONLY when they stopped eating gluten, casein, corn, etc.!

How did I find out about gluten? First, from an old friend of my hubby's, who had Celiac Disease, finally diagnosed by his getting better from avoiding gluten (his old doc said just avoid gluten, and see what happens). The doc was of Scottish ancestry, and I suspect he may have known about Celiac Disease, from his own personal experience.

Then, when I started to get symptoms of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome, from bad ergonomics while working on creating my VCD website (!), I found the TOS forum on braintalk.org

Then, on the TOS forum, I was led to the PN/peripheral neuropathy forum, also at braintalk.org

Then, I met Cara on the PN forum, and that got me back into thinking about gluten.

Then, my hubby and I got tested by EnteroLab. He came out positive, and I came out negative. So, we both go gluten-free. And, I added info about gluten sensitivity to my VCD website.

Hey, is braintalk ever coming back?

Carol
http://cantbreathesuspectvcd.com