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Old 09-21-2011, 06:01 AM #11
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Gosh, that's fine.

No need to apologize for posting on the thread. It's not parsley-specific!

It's really interesting.

I wish I could grow what Koala is growing in my area. That's the beauty of different zones though I suppose.

I would love a real cottage garden but it's not possible where I live.
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I am going to try and get a current pic of these. I've been ill with a severe GI thing (perhaps a metformin GI attack) or a food poisoning or gall bladder attack. So I've been on antispaz meds which do affect me as far as cognitive abilities go.

I'll get down in front if it is not raining today and do a current photo. Hubby doesn't think we'll get a frost yet. He looked at the weather map and says maybe the cold front will slip south of us...and I really hope that turns out to be the case!
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Feel better really fast. No rush for photos. They're always wonderful, so just take your time getting better. Hopefully not a gall-bladder problem or food-poisioning. Yikes.
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I think it is the metformin again. I took this years ago and got sick on it. This new version is designed to minimize its GI blast effects but seems it is getting me anyway! I found a PubMed article that says metformin stimulates the gall bladder, and I've had issues with it before too. So I think it is a double whammy.

I stopped the metformin 2 days ago and my morning sugar was 113 today!

I guess if it goes up again I will have to do a basal insulin now.
(I am allergic to sulfas...which most of the drugs are based in sulfa).

I am feeling better today, but gads! it was an awful 4 days.
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My daughter, as you may know, takes Metformin. Makes her ill too from time to time, unfortunately.

I'm so sorry to hear you've been having such problems. The next few days will fare you well I'm hoping!
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Yes, I recall... PCOS patients often are given metformin.

The newer version is called Glumetza. I don't know if it is available where she is tho. It is designed to be ultralong acting to minimize GI effects. But the drug itself does stimulate the gall bladder and that is my issue, I think now.

Here is the new paper on it:
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Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 2011 Aug 24. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2265.2011.04210.x. [Epub ahead of print]
Impaired Gallbladder Motility and the Effect of Metformin Therapy in Patients with Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.
Isik S, Nursun Ozcan H, Ozuguz U, Berker D, Tutuncu Y, Akbaba G, Guler S.
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Ministry Of Health, Ankara Numune Research and Training Hospital, Department of Endocrinology and Metabolism, Ankara, Turkey Ministry Of Health, Ankara Numune Research and Training Hospital, Department of Radiology, Ankara, Turkey.
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Objective:  Impaired gallbladder (GB) emptying is a well-documented contributor to gallstone formation. The aim of this study was to evaluate GB motility in patients with polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). Methods:  The study population consisted of 36 PCOS patients and 20 healthy controls. GB volume was calculated using the ellipsoid formula (π/6xLxDxW) after three dimensional measurements were made by ultrasound [length (L), width (W) and depth (D)]. Following the determination of fasting GB volume (V0), patients were given a standard liquid meal. GB volume measurement was then repeated after 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 75 and 90 minutes. Gallbladder ejection fraction (GBEF) was calculated after each measurement. PCOS patients were re-evaluated after a 12-week course of metformin therapy at a dose of 1000 mg/day. Results:  Mean baseline gallbladder volume (V0) was significantly higher in the patient group compared to the control group (27.2±12.5 cm(3) vs. 13.3±7.0 cm(3) , p<0.001). While baseline GBEF values were similar between groups, increases in GBEF were significantly lower in the PCOS group starting from 20 minutes after consumption of a standard test meal. A 12-week course of metformin therapy resulted in significant improvements in GB volume and GBEF values with a reversal of metabolic and hormonal abnormalities. Conclusion:  For the first time in the literature, we managed to demonstrate impaired GB motility in patients with PCOS. Metformin therapy not only improves the metabolic and hormonal imbalances associated with PCOS, but also has a positive influence on GB motility.

Copyright © 2011 Blackwell Publishing Ltd.

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I was okay with it for several months, with minor looseness.
But the nausea, burping and pain just started this summer.
I stopped it for a while, got better, and restarted it early last week. By Fri I was pretty sick again!

I've had many spells over the years, one landing me in the hospital 35 yrs ago...but no stones or other pathology show up in testing. I think it is spasms, because my antispaz meds work on it. The burping is better today too, and hiccups gone.
One day I was massively dizzy... and I have been in bed with a heating pad on my side for days!
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Here is photo of the impatiens grouping:

The large purple plant is Persian Shield...this is the first time I've tried it. Where we live I guess it is an indoor plant, but one nursery I went to had it this year with the heat summer loving plants, so I was making the big planter and decided to try it.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/516/

Maybe you have them there in Australia, Lara?

We've had tons of rain this year, so these plants have loved that!

I also put a product called soil moist in their soil, which holds moisture for sensitive type plants like this. It is a granular resin that swells up when wet like jello. Only it does not rot away, and it holds containers between waterings. I left that planter for 5 weeks on the left, and my house sitter only watered it ONCE...that is one hot dry spot in the photo... so that is some wet summer!
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Wow, great photo. Thanks.

That Persian Shield would grow very well here in my area. I'm sure I've seen it.
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