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Old 04-02-2007, 11:00 PM #1
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Dear Randy and EVERYONE else interested enough in this topic,

We have a 4 year old, with a VP shunt since 4 months old, and have endured 3revisions. We own a plane, and I have had Christian up with us 4 times now, EACH with a problem. I am ready to sell the plane, and to write a very informative paper on this subject, as it seems to me, that there is not enough information on this topic. I have appreciated everyone’s input as to those of you with a VP shunt, telling us without them that there have been no problems. I am so very happy for all of you symptomatic. We have not been so fortunate.
First, I see so many uneducated writings on the issue of pressurization vs. unpressurized vessels. Without getting too deep here, and to prepare for my paper, but I have to inform you all, that just because you are on a 737 or similar jet, does NOT mean there are some significant pressure differences. I suspect, that those of you who have not experienced any problems, have flown on an aircraft that has a great system that will keep the 'cabin altitude' down as close to sea level as possible. Every aircraft has it's own regulation in PSI ( pounds per square inch ) which may differ from the exact same type sitting next to it in the gate. All of that said, to tell you that You may be experiencing 8,000 feet of air in a pressurized airplane....or more.
I fly my son at 1500 feet when possible. He has never been above 3,000 feet. So he has experienced much less of a pressure loss than those who fly on a big jet at 35,000 feet.
Just 2 days ago, we flew. In minutes, he showed the setting sun eyes, stared ahead, not moving at all, and unresponsive. He soon fell asleep. My wife sitting next to him tried to wake him up. He stirred but only to go right to sleep. This was 3-4 hours prior to his normal nap time, which he takes like clock work. This was the third time ( this one was the worst ) he has shown like symptoms.
I have a Carbon Monoxide detector. None detected.
We have driven him through WV at higher altitudes. No signs then remembered.
We climb, and descend very slowly. We have him chew and swallow to assist.
He kept blinking his eyes, when we asked him what was wrong. When we asked where it hurt, he pointed to his belly twice ( keep in mind, he only responded to these 2 questions, and he is slow developmentally, so we can not confirm the belly as of yet )
He could not lift his eyes upward, as we tried to have him look at our fingers.
It has seemed that these 3 flights, he started to stir as we were close to the ground on final, or after landing.....which seems to me that he is extremely sensitive to the altitude changes.
We landed, and he was awake and seemed 'normal' within 4 minutes of landing.
If nothing else, can someone please provide me with a link...or an avenue to get into this deeper? There has to be someone out there who is as sensitive, that can help me to put this paper together to educate us all, so we may learn through this to first keep anyone from suffering, and second, to build a better shunt. There has got to be a better way.
I am not an engineer, but understand how hydraulics and pneumatics work. I also understand that at 18,000 feet, we are at half of the earth’s atmosphere. The GREATEST change happens at the altitudes closest to sea level. There is where we will see the biggest changes...therefore the biggest issues I suspect with shunts.
If there is a doctor out there, just like my sons, who will tell us that there is NO issues flying with a shunt, then please do not reply. I am not buying it for a second. If you are so certain, put one in your own head, and lets go for a flight. If your ears pop driving up a hill on the ground...that means your body ( inner ear ) has sensed a change, and the body is adjusting. What makes anyone with any common sense think that a shunt would be any different?
Please. Give me some good info. I want to help not only my son, but also all who may benefit from this.
Merry Christmas to all,

Paul Roy
I found you by doing word search "pain and altitude" - hope this helps:
3 years ago my trigeminal nerve was damaged - I've had many TX - nothing helps. EXCEPT, when I fly and 737s and we get above 30,000 feet my pain totally disappears. I still have the numbness in my face (nerve injured during surgery) but ABSOLTELY no pain. I've told all my MDx (including neurologists) and they don't have a clue. Thanks for standing your ground - doctors are limited in knowledge. STAND ON YOUR TRUTH.
May God bless you and your family.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:53 PM #2
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I found you by doing word search "pain and altitude" - hope this helps:
3 years ago my trigeminal nerve was damaged - I've had many TX - nothing helps. EXCEPT, when I fly and 737s and we get above 30,000 feet my pain totally disappears. I still have the numbness in my face (nerve injured during surgery) but ABSOLTELY no pain. I've told all my MDx (including neurologists) and they don't have a clue. Thanks for standing your ground - doctors are limited in knowledge. STAND ON YOUR TRUTH.
May God bless you and your family.
I found your post very interesting!!

My 80 year old mother was diagnosed with dementia caused by NPH (Normal Pressure Hydrocephalus) late last year. I suspected that she has NPH and this was detected due to my insistence on her having a CT scan, seeing a good Neurologist and having a MRI scan.

I took both my elderly parents on a two week cruise to New Zealand a month ago, spending most of the time pushing Mum around in a wheelchair,
I thought her mental state at the time was like that of a three year old child.

After returning to Adelaide late at night from Melbourne by plane (a one hour flight), Mum pushed past me when we were in the laundry together.

I asked her what she was doing and she said she was going outside to help bring in the suitcases.

With that she powered out the door, down the step and strode out to the car, bringing back a small suitcase, which she lifted up and brought into the house.

All this occurred without her using a walking stick or shuffling.

She was behaving like the Mum I knew ten years ago, both physically and mentally. Sadly this only lasted for a short time, but it has given me such hope for the Shunt Operation which we hope she has soon!

My four sisters and I all thought Mum did not have Alzheimer's, even though her primary care doctor was not receptive to this idea at first.

This type of behaviour has occurred each time after she has flown in the last five years.

Have you or anyone heard of this phenomenon before.

P.S. We live in Australia
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