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Dr. Smith 08-29-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MicheleN (Post 1011035)
I know this is a kind of old thread, but I take Marinol! I use it off label for pain, seizures, and nausea. Prior to that I was on Cesamet, a synthetic cannabinoid that was taken off the market for some reason.

I hadn't heard of Cesamet (nabilone) previously, but in looking it up I find that it has been available in the US since 2006.

Does this agree with your experience?

Doc

ginnie 08-29-2013 04:58 PM

Hi leo
 
I have a strong opinion about this. I am allowed Morphine, percocet, but not MJ? Now really, which drugs would cause the most damage?. I can't die from MJ and it may even help. However in my state is it not allowed. So, I involved myself with the legislation in this state, getting some petitions going. I am 61 and feel I most likely will be dead before it is approved in this state. Maybe for future progress this fight must go on. I would try this if it were legal and see for myself if it did me any good. Micro managing of our lives is getting pretty scary.
I'm a big girl now, and would make a choice based on my own experience. I have questioned my doctors, neither would approve of a script even if it was legal. There is a long way to go on this subject. Many many medications are derived from plants, so what is the beef with this one? Is it all about money and who gets it? I think that is part of the issue. Tax it and national debt would go right out the window! ginnie:grouphug:

Dr. Smith 08-30-2013 09:51 AM

Different issues—both political
 
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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 1011111)
I have questioned my doctors, neither would approve of a script even if it was legal.

I think at least some, if not most, might change their answers after it became a legal medical option. It depends partly on their personal politics and partly on keeping their opinions private in a hostile environment. ;)

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There is a long way to go on this subject. Many many medications are derived from plants, so what is the beef with this one? Is it all about money and who gets it? I think that is part of the issue. Tax it and national debt would go right out the window! ginnie:grouphug:
Indubitably. It is perplexing, and while attitudes are changing as Boomers age, some changes take more time than others. According to my former college professors, societal change takes (on average) a generation (~30 years) to substantially realize. Of course some (like racism) take longer, and others take less. IMO organized activism makes a huge difference.

Now that 2 states have legalized marijuana, undoubtedly more will follow.
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Democratic [Pennsylvania] state Sen. Daylin Leach compared marijuana legalization efforts to the debate over legalizing same-sex marriage: once a few states act, it will disprove "all the horror stories" perpetuated by opponents.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/marij...g-other-states
Doc

ginnie 08-30-2013 11:41 AM

Thanks Doc.
 
I just hope that this issue gets onto a ballot. I wish this would happen in my lifetime, so that I have an opportunity to determine what is good for me. I think if a tomato plant showed some properties that the Gov. didn't like, they would make those against the law too!:eek:ginnie:grouphug::eek:

MicheleN 08-30-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 1011104)
I hadn't heard ofCesamet (nabilone) previously, but in looking it up I find that it has been available in the US since 2006.

Does this agree with your experience?

Doc

I was first prescribed 1 mg Cesamet/2 X daily in August of 2011. I was told by my pharmacist--and later verified by doctor after I brought it up--that it went off the market sometime in 2012 (I can't recall the exact date, but I do remember needing a Marinol 'fridge in my hotel room for my wedding in April 2012). That pharmacist proved to be an immoral jerk, but my doctor is a good "outside of the office" friend who wouldn't have lied to me. (He would also be very blunt if he thought I was abusing a medication.)

It appears, however, that the Internet says it's still available... I wonder what's up? My insurance website says that it costs $50 for my previous prescription, so I'll ask my doctor if something's changed! If it has, I have an immeasurable amount of gratitude towards you. :hug:

MicheleN 08-30-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 1011104)
I hadn't heard of Cesamet (nabilone) previously, but in looking it up I find that it has been available in the US since 2006.

Does this agree with your experience?

Doc

I can't edit my post because they're moderated due to my post count, but I also recall my doctor calling a pharmacist friend to ask him about the availability of Cesamet. (I was with him in his office, so I heard the call on speakerphone.) The pharmacist also looked it up and saw that it wasn't available. Could it have been/be related to my insurance--or perhaps my location? My doctor is in Kew Gardens, NYC and I live just south of Newark, NJ, if that helps. (Though I just looked at the FDA approval history and see no mention of any changes since 2008.)

Dr. Smith 08-30-2013 10:48 PM

"Unavailable" is different than "off the market" (not disbelieving what you say you were told! :)) I get "unavailable" quite often, and insurance companies do change what they'll cover and what they won't, and that's different still. Then again, DEA is different than FDA, and that regulation may have changed. From Cesamet's website:
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...there are laws about how doctors can prescribe it. Prescriptions for Cesamet should last for just a few days.
Given nabilone's potential for neuropathic pain, it's too bad it isn't prescribed for that more often.

Doc


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