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Old 01-18-2015, 02:58 AM #61
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Hi everyone! First of all, english isn't my native language and second i'm having problems on focusing due to lyrica withdrawal, but i'll try my best for your understanding.

I took lyrica for weakness on my left elbow (muscle injury), well, i didn't know lyrica was a medication for problems i never had, i just trusted in my doctor, he told me lyrica was a very "light" medication so i took it for ONLY 2 weeks, twice a day, 75mg each capsule. When all my capsules was gone i just stopped taking it, the doctor didn't say anything about tapering down and the nightmare was beginning.

In the first 3 days i had:
  • extreme headache in one side of the head (can't remember wich one)
  • dizziness
  • head pressure
  • tearing
  • lack of breath
  • trouble to take a deep breath
  • weight in the legs
  • insomnia
  • suddenly wake up in panic

Ok, today i completed 2 months off lyrica, some symptoms gone, and some appeared, the ones that still remain are worse.

Current symptoms:
  • extreme dizziness the whole time
  • head pressure
  • tingling in the head
  • sensitivity to sound
  • feeling heavy (as if gravity had increased)
  • weight in the upper body
  • some days i wake up sneezing

I've been a little anxious my entire life, so i think my anxiety is "normal". Symptoms seems to get worse the more active i am, also sitting or/and looking down makes it a LOT worse in seconds. Everyday i think i'm dying and my parents don't deserve that, i'm only 25y. I'm drinking camomile tea everyday, lots of water, eating healthy food, but can't walk everyday because i'm too scared to get off home. My parents aren't the most supportive and they keep pushing me to do things. What else can i do? Should i start lyrica over again? Does anyone know about a similar case? I found some, but not including all my symptoms. Please help me, i'm desperate! The dizziness and head pressure are driving me crazy to the point i'm thinking about suicide.

Did i mention that doctors in my country are all about the money? My doctor prescribed lyrica for nothing, my elbow was healed.. Help!
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I forgot to mention that i'm also dealing with "brain zaps", it always comes with dizziness, head pressure and sound sensitivity (actually my entire head gets sensitive, my jaws, my teeth, and the moving of my eyes...
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Default Off Lyria But Headaches Persist

Hi PDK -- I've been of lyrica over 4 months but my headaches continue. Like you, I wonder if I'm dying from some unknown affliction. Any words of wisdom you have on continuing side effects from lyrica and how to cope would be welcome.

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Hi there. Just reading through some of your posts and I think what you are doing for people going through this is wonderful. I am about a month and a half off Lyrica after tapering off 600mg at my highest dose. Your post on GABA and how it helped you to feel better really helped to connect the dots. You see, I was put on benzodiazepines back in 2008 for mild generalized anxiety.
I was feeling ill about 6-8 months later and didn't know it was that little pill making me sick. Long story short it took about another year to realize I wasn't dying from some odd disease (all work ups were 100 percent normal) and no doctor caught it was the clonazepam and Lorazipam causing such ill effects. Little did I know that the real horror would be when I went cold turkey and the nearly 15 months of relentless withdrawal that makes my Lyrica withdrawal feel like a walk in the park!!

What I'm getting at and what we need to spread to these folks out here is that Lyrica is thought to act on the same receptors that Benzodiazepines do. This is why many of the symptoms are similar when withdrawal hits! These receptors take months (and for some years) to "reset" and regain affinity to attract GABA and cause the nervous system to calm down and the odd symptoms people feel to dissipate.

I did a LOT of research while in benzodiazepine withdrawal and have educated myself FAR beyond what your run of the mill physician will tell people. I was told I was crazy, that NO DRUG can cause withdrawal months after cessation. What they don't know is that it's the ADAPTION AND CHANGE in the brain that is causing the problem, not the actual drug which had left the body months ago. Same holds true with Lyrica.

If you have any questions or would like me to help anyone on here (I am new on here) please let me know. Like I said, I am only a month and a half off Lyrica and am experiencing about half of the symptoms you have listed but compared to what I have been through, this is something that can be tolerated and put up with because it does get better it's just that people are quite surprised to find that these class of drugs can create such a long and painful withdrawal syndrome. No other class of drugs, even opiates, cause such a long drawn out withdrawal.

If anyone needs help or questions answered let me know. I'm not a doctor, just someone that has been severely injured by big pharm and a medical community that is completely unaware of what the drugs they so freely dispense can do to people.
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Still no answers

Correcting my first post, it will be 2 months off lyrica in 7 days. I'm thinking in restart lyrica and reduce it correctly. Please someone help me...
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Oh, the horror...the horror! (My nod to Dr. Smith and Lost in Space)

Thanks Dr. Smith! Of course you are right in that there are plenty of people who have gone off Lyrica with no trace of withdrawal. My husband spent many months in the hospital getting IV Dilaudid every two hours, and was weaned off within a week and seemed to have zero withdrawal symptoms. Lucky him, and lucky you, whoever you are, that stops so easily. This post is not for you. If you read my first post, I was dead sick for two weeks before I even knew I was in withdrawal, so precipitous fear wasn't a problem.

I thought rather than scare everyone to death, I'd tell you a few things that helped me a lot, or a little. I did crazy research online to find some solutions. I am not in any way recommending anything. Do your own research, and try what you will at your own risk. This is information widely available online, that I found with Google searches. I didn't have blurred vision, so I don't know about that.

OVERALL: GABA. GABA is an amino acid available over the counter. I came upon it by accident at GNC, and thought hmmm...gabapentin/GABA. I bought a bottle, brought it home and did some reading before trying it (***-backward, I realize). Web M.D. states that GABA works by inhibiting brain wave signals. Lyrica is believed to work by inhibiting brain signals. GABA is analogous to Lyrica (chemically very similar, also from Web M.D.) While there are many who believe that GABA doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, the consensus is that some of a dosage does cross. I took mine with grapefruit juice, hopefully to potentiate crossing the bbb. GABA is believed to relax you, help you sleep, aid in fat burning, help with PMS, relieve pain and aid in balancing blood pressure. I was concerned about taking another version of Lyrica, even natural, obviously because I was trying to get off it, but could find no evidence that GABA caused any of the problems of Lyrica, especially withdrawal. I took GABA every night (makes you sleepy) and darned if it didn't make everything easier. I wish I had found it at the beginning of withdrawal, because it did help me very much. GABA was the first (and only) thing I tried that made me forget that I didn't feel well, often for hours at a time (and when I'm ill, I have this OCD habit of constantly reevaluating my current state). Everything else helps, but this was the most helpful. It cost around fifteen dollars for 60 at GNC.

Anxiety: Many people suggest a benzo like Valium or Clonopin (sp?). I didn't go that route, because I was afraid of going through withdrawal, which I've heard is brutal. I occasionally used Valerian (tastes terrible) in an oil form. I'm not sure that it really helped. As much as you don't feel like doing it, getting some exercise is good medicine. I tried very hard to walk for 45 minutes every day, and I always felt better after.

Flu-like symptoms: This was pretty obvious with ibuprofen, acetaminophen and aspirin available everywhere. Helped the body aches.

Stabbing stomach pain: I used loperamide occasionally, which is the active ingredient in Immodium, and can be purchased in any drugstore. Opiate users all have this in their cupboards for withdrawal. It's actually an opioid which has a molecular composition too large to pass through the blood brain barrier. That means it doesn't affect your central nervous system (there are many arguments about this, but I'll go with the science). However your body has many opiate receptors, especially in the gut. 4 mg took care of this every time for me. Once again, I took with grapefruit juice. Pepto Bismol also helped.

Sweating: Oh, my most hated symptom! I would break into massive, drenching sweats where water would roll down my face and my clothes would be soaked. I once again found help from those handy opiate users (some of them could be biochemists...and maybe they are!). The biggest help was benedryl, hands down. But it made me so sleepy, I could only take it before bed which kept night sweats away and gave me the added benefit of extra sleep. Afrin nasal spray was helpful during the day. It contains a chemical similar to the blood pressure med Clonidine, commonly prescribed for alcoholic withdrawal. Lots of people get a prescription for Clonidine for withdrawal, but I didn't, so I don't have first hand knowledge. Beware though...Afrin can be highly addictive too. I tried to use it sparingly. There are a number of prescriptions for hyperhidrosis (sweating) which I also did not try. If you have used them, please post and let us know. Finally Sage oil, in tea or capsules, which I got at GNC. I'm not a big natural remedy person, but this did help. I rubbed sage oil on my wrists throughout the day.

Insomnia: I used everything I could find that was available otc. As I mentioned earlier, I took benedryl every night for sweating, great for sleep (but druggy aftereffects in the morning were a price I paid). Variously I tried Unisom, Tylenol PM (especially when my body was aching) and some of the newer preparations like Tylenol PM with no pain reliever, just sleep meds). I can also highly recommend Sleepytime Herbal Tea, which can knock me out if I make it strong (I use 4 tea bags!). There are many other drugs available with a prescription, so go to your Doctor for these. I was scared off Ambien by stories of people driving off of cliffs in their sleep.

Exhaustion: I KNOW that what I used was not good for me. I drank Monster no calorie energy drinks. There is a ton of evidence that energy drinks are terrible for you. But I'm just being honest. However, my Dr helped me by switching me from Prozac (I took for depression) to Wellbutrin, which gave me energy and had the major added benefit for me of curbing my appetite, which helped me lose all that lyrica weight. This is absolutely a conversation to have with your Dr. after doing lots of your own research. Never again make the mistake I made, by not thoroughly investigating what you put in your body.

These things helped me. PLEASE add your own tips. Everyone who reads this, however, must understand that these are things that helped me. I'm NOT a Doctor, and these are related to you not as recommendations, but as my personal experiences. Be your own advocate and research what might help you. Let me know if it does.
So helpful my mom is going through major wirhdrawls, and we realized three days in. Thank you for all your research and info we will try it
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Gosh my ego is a bit bruised...lots of views of this page, but no one posting. I hope if you have a similar story, you tell it here, even briefly. Reading posts from others who were suffering was some of the best recovery medicine I found (which is why sharing is the cornerstone of the 12 Step Movement). But even if you are just reading, I hope this thread helps you!
I am brand new to any online posting, I have been reading all over the web for help understanding what my wife is going thru. After reading a few scattered blogs that addressed the symptoms and my wife going thru a week and talking to the doctor he said to go back on and start a taper after a week. this is what we did and she got better in one day. She stayed on a dose of 2 50mg per day for a week then 50mg per day then 50 every other day and only made it thru the second day and the symptoms returned in full. I spoke to the doctor again this past friday 2/13/2015 and he felt because of her having a 102/3 fever that something else is causing this ! I do not think so. any suggestions as this is 2/15 and we are due to see him on 2/16
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Default benefits to going back on lyrica

Hi: I am a new poster and in reading , I came to the conclusion that for my wife's withdrawal symptoms i would try starting her back on ! Low and behold 2 hours 80% improvement symptoms greatly reduced. Doctor wanted to treat her for some other infection because he could not believe that the symptoms she was experiencing could be from Lyrica. It was almost a magical way of seeing what was the cause of the horrible symptoms she was having. going back on will identify if you are sick or suffering from withdrawal. I think a taper of much longer time is needed. I am going to go for 10% reduction every 10 days and see how it goes. The doctor said a week or so is good!
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Hi: I would try some of the natural suggestions(b12,Gaba,benadryl ect. as suggested early in one post by 'trivafriend" I did try and am feeling positive about results like periods of relaxed rest,more alertness,more positive attitude and no negative results. Followup reading about these naturals suggest strongly of other people having some positive results also. My wife is the patient and as her care taker I can see changes in her that were amazing with stopping the drug first cold turkey and getting nasty reactions, she thought she wanted to die and I put her back on and within 2 hrs she was very much improved. I then started a withdrawal routine suggested by the doctor for 3 weeks the last week was supposed to be 75mg every other day. She only mad it one day on and the second day off and all the withdrawal symptoms started over!!!After a brutal 4 days of extreme sweats,nausea,dry heaves,small fever,pain in back and legs,in ability to sleep, could not eat for days, in coherent,garbled speaking, whimpering,tingling calls to doctor over weekend and a office visit to doc. Together to try to Identifiy her problem we put her back on lyrics 50mg twice per day, After 2 hours she was feeling wonder full !! We sat in bed talking for 3 hours with her , and she did not even remember things that went on. I started giving her "gaba", B12,Benadryl, and she surely got some relief for various periods of time but all were quite welcomed, as I and her got some rest, we are going to go back to doctor in 1 week after her being back on full dose of Lyrica while the doctor does some research on a much longer discontinuation recommendation. 2/192015

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Correcting my first post, it will be 2 months off lyrica in 7 days. I'm thinking in restart lyrica and reduce it correctly. Please someone help me...
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Thumbs up I found the way to do it!!!

I,ve been taking Lyrica for 10 years. I have NEVER experienced such hell in my life as when I run out. Get yourself some Gotu Kola. It helps with ALL the horrid symptoms. Coming off this Lyrica is a terrible thing to experience and want to help anyone else experiencing it. Gotu Lola and Lyrica are very similar.
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Hi PDK -- I've been of lyrica over 4 months but my headaches continue. Like you, I wonder if I'm dying from some unknown affliction. Any words of wisdom you have on continuing side effects from lyrica and how to cope would be welcome.
Hi ... I am in the process of weaning off lyrica. I have nerve damage after a hysterectomy 3 years ago. I was put on lyrica but have decided to go off because of the side effects. I have done books for 20 years and now am making mistakes like u would not believe. My memory is awful and nothing makes sense anymore. Going off the medication with doctors ok. But I cannot believe the withdrawal effects!!! and no the nerve pain is starting again. I am at loss with what to do. HATE the drug ... helped with 75% of pain but what is worse. Side effects or pain. HELP
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