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Old 11-08-2015, 09:29 PM #11
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I saw a friend yesterday who has a long history of neuropathy and for many years her doctors called it ideopathic but recent years she came to the realization it's from 30 yrs of taking statins. We chatted yesterday and she mentioned she's in a class action lawsuit against lipitor.

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Thumbs down No COQ10?

I was shocked when a family member had recently told me she has been on statins and COQ10 has never been mentioned/prescribed/suggested.

This is 2015?

I was furious, in truth. There is no excuse for this anymore.

She is now reading up to see if she needs COQ10, which I support and admire. There's no reason she should take my word for it. I think she had a hard time with the fact that her doctor is not protecting her from potential statin harm. I had told her, point blank, there is no good reason for any doctor to not let patients know they need COQ10 if they are taking statins.

She wondered why her muscles ache so badly. She also now has a form of RLS, which may or may not be related. I gave her some topical magnesium chloride for her RLS.

I hope she see will decide to protect herself.

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DejaVu, I have not gone to a traditional MD since 1991 and for 10 yrs NEVER getting help with what I believed was a sluggish thyroid. In 2002 my D.O. who worked on my back for years, called in for thyroid on the phone, no labs and that's when it all changed in my mind about the conventional world of medicine. 10 years of depression lifted in 4 days, it was thyroid all those years. But the MD wrote anti depression meds for 10 yrs.

I have no clue if a conventional MD ever would discuss COQ10, they know best to pull out the script pad and write away. I've started after the 2002 episode to seek out integrative MD's and found a whole new world. I could never go back as some friends try to get me to go to HMO's with my medicare and there is no way. Yes, I could save a little money but I would not get support that I now know.

It's pretty sad as I see it. Thinking about a friend who tells me about the 30 yrs of statins and all the neuropathy she deals with...she's now in a Lipitor class action suit. Her MD kept her on lipitor all those years and knew about all the neuropathy^^#$##

So, this is where I come from. The last traditional MD I saw was the ortho hip MD and I'm dealing with all that. So it's health groups I've been a member of and still am and friends and all the research I do on my own. C
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I think MDs will rarely suggest CoQ10 supplementation and even less so - totally stopping statins..

My brothers & parents are on statins of some sort.. and no CoQ10 mentioned that I know of.. and their cholesterol # was hardly above 200
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Thinking more about this cholesterol/statin issue and last night on coast to coast radio Dr. Joel Wallach who is a guest often got into the Alzheimer issue and how we NEED cholesterol and talks about 10 eggs per day to help prevent alz. I eat eggs, probably two every other day and have no desire to do 10 per day. I've read that many alz patients have low cholesterol.

Growing up we ate everything, eggs, meats, fats, etc. and my parents lived into 90's and I don't think a cholesterol test was even taken or mentioned in their lives. They had good minds at their deaths. I don't recall hearing the word cholesterol until maybe 20 yrs ago.

Dr. Wallach has books and I think he said he was writing a new one. Believe him or not, I don't know...but know my past and my parents. There are some links on Wallach and his beliefs.

Another friend at bridge over the weekend mentioned she has tingle in her fingers and asked if any of us had an idea on this....I asked her if she takes statins and she said YES for a couple years.
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I intend to ask all prescribers if the proposed medication is a statin. If so, are there non-statin alternatives?
There are many non-statin alternatives for cholesterol, they're just nowhere near as effective.

Not to argue with anyone, but according to NIH and the American Heart Association criteria, both your cholesterol and LDL are high enough to warrant medication, and right now, statins are recommended as first line. Even if you don't meet criteria for familial hypercholesterolemia, your doctor may have just meant that there's a strong genetic component (i.e. "it's familial"), most studies show that genetics are heavily involved.

And the pharmaceutical companies aren't really making money on them any more. One is on several 4$ or 5$ plans and most of the rest are generic and fairly inexpensive.

I get some people have developed peripheral neuropathy and I definitely can empathize, I have PN from other causes, however statistically it's an uncommon side effect, it just seems to happen a lot bc so many people are on them and most studies show that the symptoms at least diminish and often go away once the statin is stopped.

I really do get that peripheral neuropathy sucks, but what about the alternatives? The second leading cause of death in the 45-54 age group is heart disease with stroke being the 6th leading cause, and heart disease is the third leading cause in the 35-44 age group and stroke the 7th leading cause. Statins do help prevent death from heart disease and stroke. And they both move higher up the list as causes of death the older the individual is.

I don't mean to be antagonistic, I just hope people look at all the facts before stopping life-saving meds such as statins (as controversial as that may be).

I really hope I haven't offended anyone.
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Here is some more info on this subject. I'm a believer in that there are at least two sides to everything. Often more. Dr. Sinatra has a lot to say about cholesterol also. And there is plenty of threads on cholesterol if one wants to do a search here.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...olesterol+myth
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[ life-saving meds such as statins]
For persons with actual cholesterol/heart issues, statins may be helpful and save a life.

But for the majority of persons with no risk factors, a cholesterol number on a chart should not make for an automatic statin Rx.. as it almost seems to be.

Everyone can make their own mind up when if the time comes for them.
Read about the pros & cons on statins and decide for yourself..

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This is good information too. My integrative MD has done extensive lipid testing and homocystine and fibrinogen have been elevated....so for the last 3 yrs I've been taking supps to lower both these. They are coming down.

http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/19/w...heart-disease/
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There is a Cochrane Collaboration systematic review of the results of 18 clinical trials, with 56934 participants, in which the risks and benefits of statins were examined here; http://www.cochrane.org/CD004816/VAS...scular-disease.
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