FAQ/Help |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Medications & Treatments For discussion about medications and treatments for any disease or health condition, including issues of medication toxicity. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
10-07-2008, 04:30 PM | #1 | ||
|
|||
News Gatherer
Community Support Team
|
(Psych Central News) Researchers have found that treatment with stimulant drugs may significantly decrease the risk that girls with ADHD will begin smoking cigarettes or using alcohol or drugs. The discovery parallels the findings of several earlier studies in boys, which needed to be confirmed in girls. “Girls with ADHD actually tend to get into trouble [...]
Read the full article... From Psych Central News. |
||
Reply With Quote |
10-07-2008, 06:02 PM | #2 | |||
|
||||
Wisest Elder Ever
|
articles paid for by drug companies:
Quote:
MGH doctors are not doing so well with disclosure these days. re: Dr. Biederman and MGH in general.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
10-07-2008, 06:53 PM | #3 | |||
|
||||
Grand Magnate
|
But Mrs. D, do you think what they are talking about is true? I find this very interesting. I'm supposed to take ritalin but haven't for quite a few months. I should go back on it as it really helps me at work.
__________________
. . . . . . Bruna - rescued from a Missouri puppy mill |
|||
Reply With Quote |
10-07-2008, 08:33 PM | #4 | |||
|
||||
Wisest Elder Ever
|
The last major news release of this type concerned children..
and this one appears to also. That last one was funded by the makers of Concerta. Adults with neuro problems, side effects from drugs used to treat chronic pain, patients with cognitive issues from aging do use Ritalin and often successfully. Stimulants do not change anything however, and over time have a huge downside. Most of that is cardiovascular and patients should weigh their health to see if risk is worth the benefit. Also high dose stimulants, especially amphetamines can cause a reactive psychosis and aggression in some people. For alerting adults with more complex problems, ProVigil appears safer (but some insurances still refuse to pay for it.). One of the tricks that the drug companies use is to load their studies with kids who they know will respond in the way they want. Many drug studies are done this way unfortunately. The issue here is that this study like the previous one, says that drug abuse in the FUTURE by the kids who took stimulants was averted. I personally don't think this can be claimed. In fact there are studies to show that kids who take stimulants become depressed adults. Other studies show that stimulants don't work after about two years or so as kids' brains mature. I just don't care for this study at all, given the links the main researcher has to money from drug companies. MGH in general has been getting very bad press with revelations of professional unethical behavior in the area of drug studies. My son took Ritalin for 5 yrs. We found another solution. A solution that was better, for him, without the horrible rebound side effects and tension. He is 27 now, and has done very well. The medical model of stimulants for kids is flawed. We just don't know how the brain works well enough to find another answer(s). I'll say this, our military has used amphetamines since before WWII. And it is a disgrace that some of the people who leave the armed forces left as addicts. This controversy has led to investigating ProVigil as a substitute. The results of that are not in yet. Research into addiction which involves many aspects of the complex nature of dopamine, and its transporters and receptors will provide the real answers, I think in the future!
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
10-08-2008, 07:52 AM | #5 | |||
|
||||
Administrator
Community Support Team
|
I copied this discussion over here from the health news headlines forum as it may be of interest to other members here who may not see it there. There is also a copy of the news report on ADHD forum
__________________
~Chemar~ * . * . These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
"Thanks for this!" says: | Doody (10-08-2008) |
10-08-2008, 08:28 AM | #6 | |||
|
||||
Wisest Elder Ever
|
That is a great idea! I am going to find the studies that
I referred to... and put them on the copied threads. You and I go back a LONG time now, and understand this problem well. It parallels the problems with Tourette's treatments. It is interesting to see that the drive to medicate small children and older children in general for ADHD is dropping some. People ARE finding other solutions. And I think the new food guidelines, removal of transfats, and introduction of "smart foods" with flax and fish oil in them, is helping as well.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
10-08-2008, 08:33 AM | #7 | ||
|
|||
Yappiest Elder Member
|
lol..it's copied twice. i did it earlier.
|
||
Reply With Quote |
10-08-2008, 08:47 AM | #8 | |||
|
||||
Administrator
Community Support Team
|
deleted the duplicate....lol zealous teamwork
__________________
~Chemar~ * . * . These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
10-08-2008, 09:25 AM | #9 | |||
|
||||
Wisest Elder Ever
|
Here is some information that further illustrates the ineffectiveness of stimulants for ADHD:
Quote:
This article is very interesting: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/reali...oolADHDalt.htm Renegade School Board Member Educates Parents On ADHD Alternatives Dr. Pelham describes what happened when he dared to tell the truth about a Concerta study/methodology: http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/12/03.php Here is a typical monograph from Dr. Biederman: http://www.massgeneral.org/children/...biederman.aspx Dr. Biederman has long been a pro drug advocate for small children and psychiatric issues..and now finds himself in deep trouble by not disclosing financial benefits he received for doing so: http://www.naturalnews.com/023408.html http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psych-...sley-v-harvard http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us...in&oref=slogin Other doctors including Dr. Wilens are mentioned in this New York Times article.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
Last edited by mrsD; 10-08-2008 at 10:04 AM. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
"Thanks for this!" says: | Chemar (10-08-2008) |
10-08-2008, 02:32 PM | #10 | |||
|
||||
Wisest Elder Ever
|
Why does this matter....? What is happening out there?
Well, when "distinguished" doctors are bought by drug companies, they then sway doctors in local areas, who have limited access to facts. What is becoming more obvious with time, is that this type of behavior is to benefit certain others, rather than the patients involved. Right now, there is a movement to remove these economic incentives to doctors to sway other doctors. It is VERY NEW, but welcome!
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
"Thanks for this!" says: | Chemar (10-08-2008) |
Reply |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
ADHD Meds May Lower Substance Abuse In Teen Girls | Attention Deficit Disorder |