Hey kids,

What are the ones that work for you or someone you know? My insurance denied my Nuvigil that happens to work fabulous for me. Provigil doesn't work as well, and the amantadine never worked at all.

I have high blood pressure too. What's left, the stimulants?

Your Doctor needs to inform the Insurance that the Nuvigil is medically necessary for you. Since you have tried the Amantadine they should approve it once all of the forms are completed. It only took me 3 months to get the Insurance to approve Provigil for me, and it does work very well for me.

They denied the second request. I think it will go to the employer if I have to fight it further.

I used something that isn't used particularly for fatigue normally - but when I suffered from fatigue, it worked better than anything else. It is a patch made for ADHD and is called Daytrana. One of the greatest things about it is that since it is a patch, it is a steady stream of the med, so no ups and downs on it like you get with typical pills. You put the patch on in the morning and then remove at night.

What is it with insurance companies denying coverage of Nuvigil? This is the second instance I've read about in the last two weeks. What's up with that?

Sorry to hear of this, Wiz. I hope that the good doctor can find something else for you...it should be up to him to come up with something else that is safe and effective for you.

He's fantastic Debbie but some of the office staff has been dropping the ball with this. Susan has helped me a lot and has been calling me every other day trying to get this straightened out. They're going to call in Provigil again and see if I can get that. I might have to scrape up the cash to pay for the Nuvigil myself if it doesn't work as well.

I'd let Wynn know about your disappointment with the staff...it's weird how he can be such a good physician and then there's that issue

LDN has really helped my fatigue a lot. It's not covered by insurance, but it is very affordable.

1/2 mL=100mg of Testosterone Cypionate for me once a week. For female, less then 1/2 of that. Mine's 200mg/mL. It comes in 100mg/mL so even 1/4 mL is still 25mg which is still more then females make. Can't explain how much strength it helped me regain where theres no nerve damage.

Eddie,
women should be tested for low Testosterone levels. We can't just take it at random. All men have some Estrogen, but it is small compared to their Testosterone amount in their bodies. All women have some Testosterone and more Estrogen and Progesterone than men, by nature. For child bearing and feminine characteristics, and body shape.

As women age and don't receive any extra Estrogen, they usually become more aggressive, less sensitive and by nature, passive, as the testosterone level is still high or higher than their female hormones. Women in demanding career jobs, like lawyers, Senate and Government usually are from this Menopause type group.

But to purposely take a higher dose for muscle strength, unless levels are too low, would be against their bodies natural growth.

Speaking of growth women, would get hair in places they don't ever want it, even male pattern baldness, beards, deeper voice, etc.

IMO, it would not be a good choice for women unless their doctor first tests them for low levels.

You wanted Estrogen (FDA), as previously posted. Try Soy, lots of soy products. They are filled will a natural Estrogen, if you feel you need it. As a male, have you been tested for lack of Estrogen?, or because of it's trial in MS patients along with Copaxone? It may neutralize the Testosterone benefits your muscle are seeing.

Too much Soy, is not good for normal women or any children to take, because of its high Estrogen properties. Normal adults/children have enough of their own hormones without adding ones that can cause issues.
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Red Penguins, I think that patch Daytrana, has merit, but what dose (or size) is that patch? It is a combo drug, for AD and ADHD. It is still a stimulant, almost like Ritalin. And is it costly?