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Harry Z 12-25-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 835176)
Sounds like a reasonable theory, just as does the Auto Immune theory. Is any of this going to lead to a cure? NOOOOOOOOO!!! :mad:

Hi Sally,

If this theory pans out, then controlling the problem would possibly lead to the closest thing to a cure that I've seen. But one must remember, it won't do anything for axons that are already damaged by MS.

But we can also expect to see this scientist coming under a lot of flack from the established world of MS medicine. After all, she has just told them that decades of work they have done using the auto immune theory is out the window.


Merry Christmas.

Harry

SallyC 12-25-2011 09:19 PM

The scientific world suggesting that MS is not an auto immune disease, is not new Harry. I believe John Hopkins brought up that possibility years ago.

daisy.girl 12-25-2011 09:24 PM

I have failed on 3 DMD's and have really thought, what if the side effects of these drugs are worse than the MS!
I have often thought what if THEIR theories are wrong and we are all taking these powerful drugs!!
Really makes you think!!

Harry Z 12-26-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 835418)
The scientific world suggesting that MS is not an auto immune disease, is not new Harry. I believe John Hopkins brought up that possibility years ago.

The "not autoimmune theory" has surfaced a number of times over the years but each and every time the established world of MS medicine has always been quick to dismiss it, often very aggressively. And it won't take long for the attacks to happen on this latest theory. Instead of co-operation, it will be confrontation. How very sad.

Kitty 12-26-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Z (Post 835567)
The "not autoimmune theory" has surfaced a number of times over the years but each and every time the established world of MS medicine has always been quick to dismiss it, often very aggressively. And it won't take long for the attacks to happen on this latest theory. Instead of co-operation, it will be confrontation. How very sad.

It's almost like they (the medical community) don't want a cure. :mad: Shocking.....:rolleyes:

Erin524 12-26-2011 06:10 PM

No money in a cure. They can make more by selling us medications to "manage" MS. If they cure it, they lose all that income from the modulating meds.

Plus, they make money doing "research". If they cure it, there would be no more reason to do the "research", so no more research money.

SallyC 12-26-2011 06:42 PM

Sadly, I agree. I'd like to think that isn't so, but the devil's greed, makes sinners of us all, if we let it.

Did any of you ever go to an investers forum? You wouldn't believe the cruel posts about the poor sick gineau pigs (us) and making a killing in the market.:rolleyes::mad:

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Originally Posted by Erin524 (Post 835583)
No money in a cure. They can make more by selling us medications to "manage" MS. If they cure it, they lose all that income from the modulating meds.

Plus, they make money doing "research". If they cure it, there would be no more reason to do the "research", so no more research money.


Jules A 12-26-2011 08:46 PM

Interesting link Harry, thanks for adding it.

Personally I think MS is a blanket term for what is likely numerous disease processes. The presentation and progression are too unpredictable to satisfy me that we are looking at the same disease. While I'm definitely open to the metabolic theory I believe MS to be largely of an autoimmune origin.

I don't believe scientists or even the pharm companies are doing anything to keep us sick. They have families also and especially with the scientists they have far more to gain by finding a cure and moving on to another condition as there is no end of horrid diseases out there to work on if for some stroke of genius someone managed to solve the mystery of MS.

Debbie D 12-26-2011 09:41 PM

Kicker, ditto...

Harry Z 12-27-2011 09:55 AM

Jules,

The metabolic theory does involve the immune system but as a reactionary force as opposed to origination one. I guess time will tell whether it's correct or not.

As for Big Pharma....i agree with you in that they don't want to keep people sick but their focus is not about cure, it's about long term treatment. They are in business for one reason only and that is to make the bottom line as black as possible.

What I would like to see (and it won't happen) is co-operation among the scientists and docs when it comes these recent theories. But the established world of MS medicine is extremely protective of their theories and don't get in their way....or else!

Harry


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