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wannabe 09-28-2006 04:07 PM

Thanks Mark!

As you can see, I did find some abstracts. LOL

Sorry about not making paragraphs earlier. Hope it's easier to read now for all. Are you going to post some more too? Lots happening at this conference I see.

xo++ 09-29-2006 04:49 AM

Yes wannabe I see you found them. :) And they're looking better -- thanks for breaking into paragraphs.

Yes I plan to post a few more. But a couple I planned to post were disappointments -- e.g. from looking at the title I thought that Lamictal had already undergone a clinical trial, but the abstract only describes an upcoming trial.

Mark

barbaraB 09-29-2006 02:07 PM

do you know what fungus/herb this is based on? I know a TCM practitioner I could consult --- maybe this is worth trying by using the old [cheap] source?

My neurons are rapidly declining in function so I could use some kind of therapy! help!

thanks, mark!

barbara

xo++ 09-29-2006 03:31 PM

Hi barbara,

I was wondering if there was a backdoor way to take FTY720 as well. I'd be very interested in your opinion given your background. (Anyone at the FDA or Novartis reading this will be apoplectic. :))

FTY720 is a chemical derivative of myriocin, which is a metabolite of the fungus Isaria sinclairii, or sometimes Isaria cicadae. The Chinese sell it as Jin Chan Hua. You can buy it by the pound for under $30.

Here is an article on the mutagenic potential of the fungus (encouraging).

Here is the original Japanese paper which announced the properties of interest to us.

(The spores of this fungus land on insects' exoskeletons, penetrate the skeleton, and consume the insect, hence the association with cicadas.)

But seems like you might be getting a lot of other chemicals that might not be good? And how to determine e.g. the amount of Jin Chan Hua (broth?) to ingest to get an amount equivalent to the FTY720 low dose being tried in the trial?

Good to see you.:)

Mark

BBS1951 09-29-2006 04:55 PM

Hm.

Many desperate (and not so desperate) patients go see a "Chinese Doctor".

My friend took his son who had untrollable Chron's to a Chinese Doctor. The doc prescribed this terrible tasting tea brew. The son took it and went into remission. Might be a coincidence. Might not :)


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