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Old 06-25-2013, 02:17 PM #11
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I had chickenpox when I was a kid and would like to get the shingles vaccination, but I have heard that it can cause problems with MS. Anybody know?
I don't know but am also tempted to get the shingles vaccine. I bet our MS specialists will have an opinion.
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I had the Shingles about 10 years ago, so I'm not considering it.
DD also had shingles. prior to being DX with MS. I have no idea
if the S vaccine carries a warning. I believe that the same herpes
virus that causes chick. pox and shingles, caused our (my DD's
and mine) MS!!!
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To find more information on this subject, check YouTube.

Use Dr. Blaylock vaccine as a keyword. He has done alot of reading and research of the published articles on vaccine injury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--nWrqIspnQ
This is part one of four.... an interview with Dr. Mercola.
He explains in this 4 part video sequence the role of adjuvants and toxicity from vaccines.
Please look at all 4 videos. #2 has the most detail IMO.

This sequence is in regards to H1N1 vaccines specifically. We now know that this "epidemic" never arrived. And we have had one person from Canada who had nerve damage from H1N1 that was given to him twice by mistake. It depends on the person and their own immune structure as to whether they get a reaction or damage.
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i absolutely cannot take vaccinations, at least the usual flu ones. For years I could take the Flu vaccination if it was without mercury, but this year, at my son's urging, I sought out a pediatrician who would give the flu vaccination without mercury. I got sick anyway, and looking at the various toxins which crowd into various brands of flu vaccine, I can see why.
But GirlfromNorway, I may be a special case (or maybe not). I have Porphyria as well as having an earlier MS diagnosis, and people with Porphyria are more likely to have reactions to toxins such as these, because of difficulty in the detox pathway.
I remember having my first Polio vaccination and getting double vision for a few hours, which meant I could not go to my teaching job, but then this went away quickly.
The reaction to the flu shots is largely spasticity, stiffness and pain and incoordination--difficulty doing thing with my hands and feet, and difficulty thinking clearly, which puts me then into an emotional tizzy of frustration. I have not had the double vision with the flu shot that I had from the polio shot, but I recovered quicker from the polio shot. It takes me several days at least to get my bearings after a flu shot.
It has always seemed on the MS forums that some people react as I do to these things, and others do not. Which underscores to me that MS arrives and grows through different pathways...we are not all the same. Some of us have co-morbid diseases, some do not. Some have significant chemical sensitivity, others do not have so much, or even no apparent chemical sensitivity.

Needless to say, I suffered from doctor disbelief and brush-offs when young...throughout my whole youth. And was late in getting any diagnosis. First MS, later Porphyria. I now also have Polycythemia Vera, but that is not closely related to the neuro-impacting MS and Porphyria.
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I believe you are not supposed to get the Shingles vaccine if you have MS because it's a live virus (unlike many other vaccines). Or maybe it's because I'm on Tysabri that I can't have live vaccines. The only reason I thought about getting one is because I got shingles 2 years ago!
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Here's a link to what the NMSS has to say about vaccinations:

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/liv...ons/index.aspx

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The information about the shingles vaccine -- Zostavax -- isn't as clear-cut as it is for some other vaccines. In general, MS specialist neurologists do not recommend any live-virus vaccine for people with MS because live-virus vaccines can precipitate an increase in disease activity. However, Zostavax is somewhat unique because most people have had chicken pox earlier in their lives and therefore already have the virus in their bodies. If a person has had chicken pox or tests positive for the antibodies, this would likely be a safe and beneficial vaccine to take. However, each person needs to discuss the potential benefits and risks of this vaccine with her or his healthcare provider. In terms of the possible risks for a person with MS whose close family member receives this or any other live virus vaccine, MS specialists are not in agreement. This is another decision the person with MS needs to discuss with her or his physician.
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This shingles vaccine does not give very good results.

Estimates are only 50% benefit.

Also the H1N1 vaccine has since 2009 been studied in Finland, Sweden, and now England as a potential cause of Narcolepsy in children.

You can find several articles on Google using the keyword
"vaccine narcolepsy".
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I had Scarlett Fever when I was 5. I remember my Mom telling me about it. Is it called something else today or is it not around anymore?
In 94-95 my 2-3 year old son had Scarlett fever. Is it Strep related? Didn't know it was that until they told me. He went through it fine, seemed mild.
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I found this article on Scarlet Fever: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/scarlet-fever/DS00917.

It sounds almost like Mono. I had Scarlet Fever when I was around 5 years old. I also had many bouts of Strep over the years. Mono at 19, Chicken Pox at 25. Then about six months before I was dx with MS (2005) I had back to back severe Bronchitis. I was tired and run down as both my parents passed away within 2 months of each other (January and March 2005). I think my immune system was just kaput.
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I have had the flu vaccine every year for probably about 15 -20 years with no problems other than a slightly sore arm. I had to get a tetanus vaccine 3 years ago after cutting my hand and going to the ER. I also did not have any problems with it. I asked my neuro about the shingles vaccine and he said it "should" be fine since I am not on an immune suppressant. My pcp had recommended I get it. I think the CDC is not recommending it for everyone over 55. I am not sure if my insurance will cover it until I am 60. I have not pursued it.
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