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doydie 02-07-2015 11:58 PM

I do know that with some of the more serious forms of MS when the patient can no longer have control over swallowing and the aspirate food into their lungs and die, that is considered a complications due to MS

Starznight 02-09-2015 02:41 AM

Sorry Erin and Sally but old age is no longer a reason for death :( even if you made it to 200 before croaking you'll have died due to Ms complications... Cardiac arrest... Smoking complications...brain hemorrhaging.... Whatever it is that you "died" from other than "spent too many years on this planet cells turned to dust duh..."

And yes there are both people who live long full lives that are said to have died from complications, as well as younger folks who have died from complications. Pneumonia is a big one, any time one spends a significant amount of time in a lying position the risk is increased. There's also kidney failure, liver failure and the like from various the various drugs used to treat the symptoms as well as the DMDs. Infections from bed sores, choking, even drowning... All such deaths will be listed as 'complications from MS' on the death certificate.

Now, the TV Scorpions, where his sister has 'end-stage MS' yeah, no doesn't exist. You can have end stage cancer, end stage renal failure, end stage scirosis, end stage leukemia... End stage for a lot, I mean a lot of diseases... But not MS. You can't even 'die' from MS only complications from it (you can't even die from cancer either, just complications), and depending on the doctor whose writing it up, you could live to 90 die from a heart attack and still have it listed as 'MS complications'. Just because you have MS, and he can't say "old".

So whether that makes it 'deadly' or not...eh.... In some ways one could say life is the deadliest disease there is, but there is also some truth to many an MS patient's death being a direct result of their having the disease, while at the same time it can't be said that all patients will meet the same end.

All that being said, I also think Monty would have served himself and us better by stating it as "chronic and debilitating diseases".

Lumia_black 02-09-2015 10:44 PM

Obviously Montel's version of Horrible Sclerosis is very manageable. He doesn't need any assistance in walking and I even saw him do a video of him snowboarding. a year or so ago.
That seems great being 58....hope it doesn't get worse for him later on.

karilann 02-15-2015 10:46 PM

My father had Parkinsons Disease. It did not kill him.....he died with it. However the Parkinsons Disease did not help in the fact that he got pneumonia. The pneumonia killed him, but the Parkinsons helped it along. :confused:

It can be like that. Long time illness can make us vulnerable


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