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Old 02-19-2008, 08:29 AM #1
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Maybe it's coincidence?

I'm not on a diet per se, but making an effort to eat better. Wasn't hard, look at my old habbits...

Fast food
Frozen pizza
3-4 cans Coke
candy, cookies, chips w/dip
one veggie, maybe two

That was my day then, a year ago.

Now -

3-4 servings of fruit, plus lime juice
2-4 veggies a day
3 bottles of water
1 coke
White or peppermint tea
mostly chicken for meat (skinless white meat)
red meat 1-2 times a week.
fish 1-2 a week (plus fish oil supps daily)
Nothing deep fried
Mostly stuff cooked at home, maybe 2 frozen dinners a week (Healthy Choice or something like that).
Candy/snacks 1-2 per week

I know, a long way from perfect, but still way better than it was.

You'd think I'd feel so much better. Or look better, something - I should get something out of this.



But I have more pain and stiffness, no more energy, sx are about the same as when I started this dietary change. I wonder what's up with that.

Maybe my body runs better on Pizza Rolls?













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I guess you're not eating enough chocolate--it hits the pleasure center of the brain.
Maybe if we're all high on chocolate, we won't care if we're tired, dizzy or stiff...
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Hi Brain,

Sorry you're not feeling well! Maybe like Debbie suggested, you need to add a regular dose of chocolate?

I have dessert after lunch and supper each day. Two Hershey's Nuggets with almonds. The dark chocolate is good because of the flavanol antioxidants (just read the package) and good for your mood, and the almonds are good for a lot of different things!

Also, the pain and stiffness could be spasticity from the cold weather. Mine gets a lot worse in the winter. I take Baclofen 10 mg 4x a day for it. Gentle stretching exercises can help too. I think there's even a brochure you can download from the NMSS website that shows some good stretches.

Also, remember that springtime and gardening is just around the corner, and that's sure to help too!
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Man! I liked the original diet but would add a lot more meat (red meat) to it for the protein.

Maybe you are deficient in some vitamin/mineral. I don't know. I kinda follow my wife's Weight Watcher meals but with my own twist. We go out to dinner sometimes three times a month.

I'm over weight but primarily because of my inability to be "active" in exercising. I've tried many weightloss diets and programs. The only one that really worked for me and was tolerable was Isagenix 9 Day Cleanse. Chocolate shakes, wafers, supplements, and appetite cleansing for two days. I lost 18lbs in the 9 days. I was thrilled.

I degress. Maybe you should consult a nutritionist and get a specific diet worked up just for you. I couldn't hurt.

Congratulations for going for it and sticking with it.
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Maybe your body is missing the fast food?

What veggies and fruits have you been eating, is it possible you need something from a (healthy) food you havent been eating?

Maybe there's some vitamin or other nutrient that your body needs that you havent been getting from the healthy foods you're eating now.
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I like the chocolate advice myself!!!

Seriously, you may be deficient in some area. Maybe an appointment with a dietitian would do you good.

Except for the coke a day, I think you are doing really good on your eating!

Maybe the weather is affecting you like Ewi said.

Have you had a physical with the PCP lately? All the bloodwork? Maybe it's time for a checkup....

Meanwhile, work on that last coke! Switch it for some chocolate - dark! Serious!

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I like the chocolate advice myself!!!

Seriously, you may be deficient in some area. Maybe an appointment with a dietitian would do you good.

Except for the coke a day, I think you are doing really good on your eating!

Maybe the weather is affecting you like Ewi said.

Have you had a physical with the PCP lately? All the bloodwork? Maybe it's time for a checkup....

Meanwhile, work on that last coke! Switch it for some chocolate - dark! Serious!


Good idea about the bloodwork. Maybe she's anemic?

Even with the bits of fatigue that I've had since developing MS, I've never had fatigue quite as bad as I had when I had mononucleosis in the mid90's and was really anemic during that time.
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So sorry my dear, but, like our cars, its like we are putting GOOD oil on top of the cruddy stuff. WE need to DETOX and that takes time. Good you are making better choices. Many "good" foods still have hormones and additives.

Try a colon/liver cleanse found at the health food stores. Instead of doing in all at once in 1 week, do the liver cleanse first then the colon. Remember MEDS alone can make the body out of whack and toxic.

Again, I wish you could see my guru of a nutritionist. He cuts to the chase with his powerful eval. If you could find someone, a chiro, someone who uses NRT or nutritional response testing. YOu'd be amazed at what they find AND they not only get to the source, but correct it.

My 5yo gs took over a year to detox mercury and other metals from his vaccinations that contributed to his inability to speak. Now he wont shut up!! BUT.. he has ASperger's syndrome.

Good luck...feel better hon

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I dont think it's a good idea to be suggesting treatments like a liver cleanse to people. Not everyone needs to do that, plus you dont know if that wouldnt cause her more of a problem.

What she needs to do is go to a doctor and have bloodwork and/or a physical to see if she's deficient in something, or if she's anemic. She could be having an exacerbation and that could be what's causing her problems.

The only people who should be suggesting treatments are doctor's who have the necessary training and equipment needed for diagnosing conditions. (sorry...took a medical ethics course for my medical transcription classes and am taking what I learned pretty seriously, I dont even suggest Tylenol to other people who have headaches anymore)
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