Well DH and I went to the Home and Garden show today and there was a chiropractor there and they did a never test on me and it showed I had severe never damage. The test was they put sometime on both sides of my neck and 3 different points and 5 of the 6 points showed severe nerve damage. The funny thing was the one point that did not show damage is the one time I felt a odd nerve twinge down my leg. I didn't feel ANYTHING any other time.
Anyone ever have this test done before?
I go in to see the Dr. on Tuesday.

The only reliable nerve tests I am aware of are those you have done in the Neurologists office. The EMG, SSER, BAER, and VER. I would not put much trust, any trust, in anyone at those Home and Garden shows when it comes to medical testing. I have been to several myself when my father was a sales person for the company he worked for.

The people at those shows are there to push their products as the best, latest, and greatest!

Actually my chiropractor has had multiple years of neuro-type training to conduct evals that he had to be certified to do. And now some do have evaluation tools that 'read" your electro-magnetic energy which is a very REAL thing.

Chiros actually have many more classroom hours in the areas of the spine, nurtrition, nerve pathways, for example than the ave MeD student. but they cannot Diagnose. Dont underestimate them, especially ones that are highly trained. BUt yes you need to be careful too.

More and more MDs are now appreciative of their specific training and ability to help correct problems originating from the spine. My chiro does not manipulate the vertebrae like the typical ones do, but rather "READS" the relexes and follows the nerve pathways to see where the electrical energy from the brain may be trapped or "pinched" .. and he can release those bundles so that the brain gets to the "injured", sublaxted or traumatized area and assists the healing process.

I trust my chiro 100% as he saved me when I was no longer able to sit or could hardly walk. Good luck

Jan

You should try to find out the name of the test.

The "normal" tests for MS nerve problems are:

- EMG/Nerve Conduction Velocity Test
- EEG and long-term EEG monitoring
- Transcranial Dopplers
- Evoked Potentials
- Intraoperative Monitoring

The results from those specific tests, usually combined, can help to pinpoint the appropriate dx:

http://www.mpmhealth.com/bodycoe.cfm?id=632

You didn't have needles inserted or anything, did you? The test he might have done would be a "nerve conduction study". Although more sensitive, it is not yet an accepted dx tool.

"Compared to traditional needle EMG, nerve conduction studies are relatively simple to set up and perform, and I would say that although they require a reasonable amount of training and experience, it's nowhere near that required for traditional needle EMG,"

"Traditional EMG, by comparison, is a specific test, but not a sensitive test. "It requires that the patient be pretty far down the road with a neurologic condition before it starts showing up. We do get a lot of false negatives," says Dr. Ferezy. "The nerve conduction studies are more sensitive. There, you're directly testing the nerve. By running electricity through it and measuring the electricity at certain points, you can tell if the conduction is slowed by entrapment. Nerve conduction tests are far easier to understand and interpret-and the results are clearer. If it's supposed to conduct at 3.2 milliseconds and it conducts at 5.2, you don't have to be Einstein to know that it's slowed down."

"... surface EMG has yet to prove its mettle as a diagnostic test. "It's not to say that in the future there may not be some good information we can glean, but right now, it's too early as a science to get good clinical information from it. I think some of the work that's being done in how muscle groups fire-and when they fire-in certain tasks is probably going to be among the more useful information that comes out of surface EMG, but right now that's experimental. . . . Still, paraspinal surface EMG remains one of the diagnostic instruments heavily marketed to doctors of chiropractic. You can hardly pick up a journal in the field without finding at least one advertisement for the tool."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._n9274595/pg_3

Cherie

I'd be a bit skeptical myself Julie...I'd get a second opinion from a highly reliable source that slskckjebw mentioned. Keep in mind if someone sets up a booth at one of these shows, they are trying to secure new clients...it could be self serving.

I do find it very, very interesting tho and worth a look see....

This is the test I had done, I just had the top 3 points tested. It was the Surface EMG like Cherie posted about.

http://www.specificfamilychiro.com/SEMG.htm

Well the good news is that this test is much more sensitive, so it has picked up on damage that a regular EMG might not have otherwise. This gives you some amunition (and confidence?) to perhaps pursue this further with the doctor.

The bad news is that it might not be replicated with the other tests that we would normally undergo with MS.

It is probably worth mentioning to your doc though, once you find out what the "severe nerve damage" is. To explain it clearly to the doc, you would need to know how the tester came to the conclusion that he did, i.e. did he say that no messages were getting through at all, or

Cherie

I read that this test wasn't used as a DX tool but it might be down the road. Well I see the chiropractor on Tuesday and based on what he says I'll see about following up with a new Dr.

No they (the tester) didn't explain much to me at the time, just that most of the points (than she showed me on the computer screen) was showing severe never damage. She did say it could really be a number of things and it might not be an awful thing at all, after all the spine and brain MRI was clear. One of the testers that was there was telling us about some thing that mimics MS a lot (I don't remember the name) and that they see it a lot after someone has been to a neuro and they ended up ruling out MS.

So I'll let everyone know what the Dr says on Tuesday.

Well I saw the chiro and they did x-rays and I have to go back tomorrow to see what the x-rays look like and get an adjustment and see what the chiro thinks is going on with me.

Good luck, Julie. I hope they can figure out what the problem is and possibly help you.