advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2008, 06:50 AM #11
tante's Avatar
tante tante is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
tante tante is offline
Member
tante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by daisymay View Post
I think that typing it and getting it out is a relief in some way. Thank you for sharing this, Tante. I hope you feel better soon and know that your'e amongst friends and a very caring community here.

On a side note~~ My cousin was DX'd w/MS for 10 yrs. Her Neuro passed away, so she went to a new one, went through the gamut of tests...

NO MS! She has Fibro. So, guess it can go both ways. I'm just glad you got the answers you need to move forward. Take care of yourself.

DM, you are right about the relief, the sharp edges of shock and disbelief are dulling as I write...not that I experienced either about having MS, but about having a diagnosis that should finally hold up and allow me to get treatment.

I actually cried in the last MRI, silent tears rolled down my face...there was going to be no wait time on the GAD, and I was scheduled for an OPEN machine....my last hopes were vanishing, so I was really shocked lesions finally showed.

As for your cousin, and the two are mutually exclusive?? Is she comfortable with the rule-out? The idea of changing Dr.s is scarey.

I have, these past few months, been putting together thoughts "In Defense of Being Undiagnosed." Bad timing to mention it now, and it has nothing to do with the callousness with which so many limboers are treated by the medical profession, nor the horrid emotional roller coaster one is on, but I learned last year of medical "red herrings" and of syndromes and smoldering illnesses and odd diseases, and of rxs for one thing that would be awful if you really had the other....

I learned that there really are times when, even with 5 O Bands, positive Evoked Potentials, and history and symptoms out the ying yang, enough to satisfy the McDonald criteria, it might be something other than MS.

But, then I learned of the relief when the ride ended.

__________________
tante
tante is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 04-11-2008, 11:24 AM #12
Jan4you's Avatar
Jan4you Jan4you is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 245
15 yr Member
Jan4you Jan4you is offline
Member
Jan4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 245
15 yr Member
Default Hugs~!

I am so glad we can be here when you received your diagnosis. ANd for a brief, fleeting moment it gave ME hope as I am 59 and STILL be diagnosed.

I do have docs who are trying. But now I think they are ONLY seeing a certain symptom and NOT the whole picture.

Take care and please know that WE care.
It was worth it!! I'll support YOU~!

Warmly, Jan
Jan4you is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
tante (04-11-2008)
Old 04-11-2008, 01:39 PM #13
hollym's Avatar
hollym hollym is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,690
15 yr Member
hollym hollym is offline
Senior Member
hollym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,690
15 yr Member
Default

What I find interesting about this is that you went so many years with a clear MRI.

I had one neuro tell me that often people have subclinical damage (i.e. damage too small to be seen on MRI) that results in sx and even neuro signs on exam. He said patients can go years and years with an unchanged MRI and then suddenly, the damage shows up.

Then, I had another neuro tell me that because my MRI hadn't changed in a year, that I don't have MS. He seemed to think it was a one time event that did all this damage and that I should just get used to it.

My present neuro seems to be agree with the first one and is waiting for an MRI change to give me an official dx. He acted like it is a foregone conclusion that it will change eventually, but there hasn't been any significant change in 2 years or more (I have lost track).

My MRI is not clear by any means, but I don't have any periventricular lesions - just about a dozen in other places.

I have seriously doubted that any change is possible after all this time, but you are proof positive that it can take many years sometimes for the damage to show up.
__________________
Dx: CNS Demyelinating Disease (2005)

Take me back to days full of monkeyshines
Bouncin' on a bubble full of trouble in the summer sun
Keep your raft from the riverboat
Fiction over fact always has my vote
And wrinkles only go where the smiles have been...

Jimmy Buffett from "Barefoot Children in the Rain"


.
hollym is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-11-2008, 02:54 PM #14
tante's Avatar
tante tante is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
tante tante is offline
Member
tante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
I have seriously doubted that any change is possible after all this time, but you are proof positive that it can take many years sometimes for the damage to show up.
__________________
holly,

Or many years to get the most curious and capable tech deciding where to do the slices as he images your brain. Seriously. I think that had a major impact on the results this time, that and the fact these were the newest machines and imaging programs in town...which is why I specified that I wanted mine done on them rather than at the centers where I had gone before.

BUT, the orders weren't specific re: what to look for, and the tech was obviously disconcerted that he was looking for demyelenating lesions, probably thought stroke or vascular problems....I was scheduled for an OPEN MRI. That couldn't be changed and I was heartsick, but at least the tech, after talking with me, knew what kind of protocol to follow, I seriously doubt many, if any have ever bothered in the past.

Of course, supposedly something like 5% will never have lesions show on MRIs, but I wonder whether that is due to the nature of the brain or the quality of the image and the tech's ability.
__________________
tante
tante is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-11-2008, 03:27 PM #15
tante's Avatar
tante tante is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
tante tante is offline
Member
tante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 151
15 yr Member
Default jan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan4you View Post
I am so glad we can be here when you received your diagnosis. ANd for a brief, fleeting moment it gave ME hope as I am 59 and STILL be diagnosed.

I do have docs who are trying. But now I think they are ONLY seeing a certain symptom and NOT the whole picture.

Take care and please know that WE care.
It was worth it!! I'll support YOU~!

Warmly, Jan

Jan, one thing I learned this past year is that DR.s not only will focus on a specific symptom, they will often see and fixate on another Dr.'s "impression" even after it is contradicted by tests.

Example: Mayo referral's impression included Bilateral Carpal Tunnel (he was convinced of this) and Peripheral Neuropathy. Both were ruled out...had been repeatedly in the past also, BUT, the DR.s after that saw that and that's what they said, "well you have.....PN and CTS."

Fortunately, to save time and trouble, I carry my own annotated copy of relevant records and could pull them out and say no, I don't, here are the Mayo EMG/NCV results...saves the Dr time, lol.

I had this happen too often, and with good Dr.s, but the more docs and tests and referrals are involved, and the bigger the time gaps between appointments, the easier it is for them to miss a page in your records, to inadvertantly fumble the ball, but that ball is our brain so we have to pick it up and run with it.

We have to not only have our own copies, we have to have read them BEFORE we see the DR. in case he hasn't seen them (like my 5 O Bands) so we can gently and respectfully get them SEEN!!

Back to seeing symptoms though, that paraprotein, lambda light chain thingy is what did me in last year, so I know what you mean...docs saw that and some of them forgot the big picture...ME!

Don't let them forget you.

__________________
tante

Last edited by tante; 04-11-2008 at 04:56 PM. Reason: better spacing, easier reading, clarity
tante is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-11-2008, 04:50 PM #16
cricket52's Avatar
cricket52 cricket52 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limboland in northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 101
15 yr Member
cricket52 cricket52 is offline
Member
cricket52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limboland in northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 101
15 yr Member
Default

Tante:

Thanks for posting this. After 30 years since first symptoms and still in limbo it's not hard to relate.

You were credible all along. The doctor who dx'd you 30 years ago before MRI's and all the technology was credible too - back then doctors relied on the patient's accounts, signs and symptoms and their gut reaction.

I'm not too far behind you in age - still waiting to get some credibility myself. It makes perfect sense that it was a relief to get confirmation.

Best of luck choosing your course of meds and treatments.
cricket52 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
tante (04-12-2008)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
newly diagnosed tomkat143 New Member Introductions 5 04-03-2008 09:43 PM
Newly Diagnosed truthone76 Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 15 08-19-2007 08:58 AM
Newly Diagnosed with TOS shelliemac New Member Introductions 11 07-25-2007 08:20 PM
Newly diagnosed kay159 Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 4 07-17-2007 03:24 PM
Newly diagnosed but.... fiberowendy2000 Bipolar Disorder 9 11-23-2006 03:21 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:24 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.