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SallyC 10-28-2006 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kingrex (Post 31525)
That is classic insider trading, Sally, and it's illegal. That's why Martha Stewart went to jail. If they're not in jail, then it didn't happen. Sounds like a message board legend. :)

Insiders have to register in advance to sell shares...they can't just decide on the fly to dump shares today before tomorrow's bad news comes out. I think it's 30 days.

It was all over the news at the time and they were investigating, but we never heard the outcome of the investigations. The big wigs said that it was a planned sale, but didn't have the evidence to back that up.

I guess it was swept under the rug. :confused: That rug at Biogen is starting to fray around the edges.:rolleyes:

BBS1951 10-28-2006 08:47 AM

Kingrex, your credibility is slipping!

It was big news about inside trading when the Tysabri thing happened. General Counsel of Biogen was found to have dumped his stock after hearing about the deaths, but before alerting the public. He is in trouble with the SEC and was fired becuz of his SEC problem.

In addition, SEC determined there was a large amount of stock option trading (i.e. predicting BIogen's stock would fall-- cant recall if they call that a put or a call) after the deaths and before the public was alerted to the deaths.

This is not board legend. This was all in the newspapers.

Lastly, Kingrex, it is not MY MONEY that the attys woud spend. Attys take personal injury cases like mine on a "free" basis. They fund all of the litigation up front, and then take a hefty amount of the award if they win.If they lose, they absorb the losses, not the client.

They told me that it would require large amounts of money to hire experts to examine me, examine my files, testify, and large amounts of money to combat a Pharma because Pharmas have fleets of attorneys that have tactics that make the litigation extrememly expensive. Surely you have read the book, A Civil Action, which is a similar type of lawsuit but againts W. Grace & Co. in the BOston area (their chemical company dumped the chemicals into the ground which affected the drinking water and caused cancers in young children-- I think John Travolta starred in the movie).

BBS1951 10-28-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 31539)
It was all over the news at the time and they were investigating, but we never heard the outcome of the investigations. The big wigs said that it was a planned sale, but didn't have the evidence to back that up.

I guess it was swept under the rug. :confused: That rug at Biogen is starting to fray around the edges.:rolleyes:


LOL. Biogen has a very large and very thick rug-- like any Pharma. They sure "pulled the rug out from under me". I'm hoping other Pharmas are more ethical than Biogen, but not so naive to believe it.

Harry Z 10-28-2006 09:35 AM

Kingrex,

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Originally Posted by kingrex (Post 31512)
Sorry to hear about your troubles...but I don't think your experience proves that companies will withhold information about serious side-effects, especially since the trial results are disclosed in public.

The trial results "that the company wants you to see" are disclosed in the public. Just look at Vioxx and how Merck conveniently hid the problems that are now associated with this drug.

If I can recall something I read a couple of years ago, the FDA created some rules that insisted that drug companies publish ALL the information about their drug trials. Problem is, there is no enforcement or penalty associated with lack of compliance.

Harry

BBS1951 10-28-2006 10:18 AM

And the FDA does not have a big enough budget to monitor post marketing problems with approved meds.

kingrex 10-28-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BBS1951 (Post 31580)
Kingrex, your credibility is slipping!

I don't base my credibility on whether or not Biogen or Elan was sued...I'm neither a muckraker nor a newsman. Anyway, somehow, we got on this subject. If you say there was a story there, then I believe it. But it really has nothing to do with Tysabri as a treatment, IMO.

What was the disposition of the case...was anyone prosecuted and convicted of insider trading? If it was all over the news, then it could hardly have been swept under the rug after the story became public knowledge. I'd be interested in knowing what happened, absent the conspiracy talk. Either they were prosecuted or they were not.

kingrex 10-28-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BBS1951 (Post 31612)
And the FDA does not have a big enough budget to monitor post marketing problems with approved meds.

Curious how you arrived at this...what is their budget, and how is it distributed?

pantos 10-28-2006 03:14 PM

Ex Biogen exec fined $3 million dollars to settle insider trading charges

http://www1.cchwallstreet.com/ws-por...sp?fn=01-17-06

Ex-Biogen Exec Fined $3M in Insider Trading Case By Jennifer McCandless
January 17, 2006

Thomas Bucknum, former general counsel for Biogen Idec, will pay $3 million to settle insider trading charges filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

According to the SEC, Bucknum sold thousands of company shares in the two weeks before the company’s multiple sclerosis drug, Tysabri, was withdrawn from the market in February 2005 because of safety concerns.

In settling with the SEC, Bucknum agreed to disgorge $1.9 million in stock gains from the trade, as well as a civil penalty of $969,000 and interest of $102,000. Bucknum is also barred from serving as an officer or director of a publicly traded company for five years.

Bucknum sold 89,700 shares before information became public that two patients taking its multiple sclerosis drug Tysabri had developed a rare brain disease. Once the information was released and the drug was pulled from the market, Biogen’s stock plunged 42%, according to the complaint released by the SEC.

On the morning of Feb. 18, 2005, Bucknum told his broker he wanted to exercise 89,700 stock options and sell the shares. At about noon, Bucknum attended a meeting in which he and other senior Biogen officers learned that a patient taking Tysabri had been diagnosed with a rare and fatal brain disease and that another patient may have contracted the illness.

Following the meeting, Bucknum called his broker's associate, who told him he had received legal clearance from Biogen for the stock sale, and Mr. Bucknum told the associate to sell the shares. Shortly after 2 p.m., the 87,900 shares were sold for an average price of $67.12 and a profit of $1.9 million.

On February 28, Biogen and Elan Corp., the company’s partner in marketing the drug, suspended Tysabri sales and Biogen’s stock price dropped to $38.65 from $67.28 the day before.

Bucknum resigned as general counsel of the Cambridge-based drug maker last March. In settling with the SEC, Bucknum neither admitted nor denied any wrongdoing.

pantos 10-28-2006 03:19 PM

FDA to create board to monitor drug safety
By Diedtra Henderson, Globe Staff |
February 16, 2005

ROCKVILLE, Md. -- The Food and Drug Administration said yesterday it will create an independent drug safety board -- as critics have demanded -- that would quickly direct the agency how to respond to drugs on the market that are suspected to be unsafe.

The board reflects a major shift in the FDA's approach. To date, most of the agency's focus has been on testing a drug's effectiveness and safety prior to its approval. But once a drug was on the market, the agency relied primarily on the drug industry to alert it to problems. Now the agency is pledging to look for safety problems on its own.

The new safety panel would be made up of agency experts who were not involved in approving the drug and other scientists inside and outside of government. While the drug would remain on the market during deliberations, the panel could act within days, instead of the weeks or months that the FDA has taken to respond to the recent spate of problems first with antidepressants and then with Vioxx, Celebrex, and other painkillers.

The launch of the safety board received both praise and criticism from Congress. It comes as the agency begins three days of hearings today on the risks and benefits of the painkillers, a session triggered by the withdrawal of Vioxx from the market last fall. Agency critics say the FDA is too closely tied to the drug industry it regulates. There also have been internal conflicts, with FDA employees who approve drugs having more clout than the side of the agency that reviews potential problems with the same products.

Meanwhile, the New England Journal of Medicine yesterday published studies showing Vioxx and Celebrex triggered heart problems much more quickly than previously known. One study, a completed review of the trial that led to the withdrawal of Vioxx, indicates that small doses of that drug began to harm hearts within just six months.

Another study indicates that larger doses of Celebrex caused excess deaths due to heart attack and stroke in as little as 12 months. The lead author of the study said the heart risk may actually be greater.

''Had we had more people, it's very possible we would have seen a risk earlier," said Dr. Scott Solomon, director of non-invasive cardiology at Brigham and Women's Hospital. ''So, to conclude from this that there is no risk before one year would be wrong."

Celebrex, Vioxx, and similar drugs in their class, called cox-2 inhibitors, were introduced with much fanfare at a time when drug advertising rules were relaxed. As safety concerns grew, prescriptions steadily dropped.

Solomon said his results do not suggest Celebrex should be withdrawn from the market, as the FDA has been pressured to do. He said that within several months, studies pointing to Celebrex's potential benefit in shrinking tumors are expected to be complete. For now, what's clear is that high doses of the painkiller more than tripled the risk of serious cardiovascular events.


more at: http://www.boston.com/business/globe...528539/?page=2

SallyC 10-28-2006 05:21 PM

Thanks Pantos....Johnny on the spot..:D


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