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07-26-2008, 01:13 PM | #11 | |||
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Interesting! I also remember how much praise she started giving my doctor upon hearing of my upcoming appointment with him back in May.
Interesting! Do doctors eventually see through the hogwash? Or am I forever destined to live under her shadow? And clutches? I'm checkiing out the Al-Anon Podcast now...my first time! Thanks!
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07-26-2008, 01:19 PM | #12 | ||
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from my experience, they listen to the patient. your mother would come across as a meddeling person.
i had a problem a few years ago with a nurse from my dr's office. my dr is also a family friend and member of our club. as his most of his staff. well, one of his nurses taked to my husband one day at the club. asked him about a problem i had talked about during an exam. she got fired. it's not that my husband didn't know. my dr has very strict confidentialty rules with his staff. plus..sheesh...talk about a man's wifes health issue in a gym full of people. do you have the link to the al-anon main site? it's very helpful.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | GladysD (07-26-2008) |
07-26-2008, 01:34 PM | #13 | |||
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I would agree that a doctor can not reveal anything about a patient, but I'm not sure why he would not be allowed to "listen" to what someone else has to say about his patient.
My mom was a diagnosed schizophrenic, and her doctor(s) used to hear all the time, from various sources (landlords, neighbors, family, friends, police...) about her antics. That was how he knew whether it was time to commit her or not, usually. Cherie
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"Thanks for this!" says: | GladysD (07-26-2008) |
07-26-2008, 01:43 PM | #14 | ||
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the ama does say this cherie
Safeguarding patient confidences also is subject to certain exceptions that are ethically and legally justified because of overriding social considerations. If there is a reasonable probability that a patient will inflict serious bodily harm on another person, for example, the physician should take precautions to protect the intended victim and notify law enforcement authorities. i don't see anywhere that says they can't listen. i guess that would be up to the dr and what he thinks is ethilcly and morally right himself or what is in his patients best interest.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | GladysD (07-26-2008) |
07-26-2008, 01:44 PM | #15 | |||
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I disagree, Cherie. A Doc may listen, but may not discuss.....and he/she is a fool to believe and/or utilize anything that is heard from anyone, other than the patient and his/her own expertise therein.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | GladysD (07-26-2008) |
07-26-2008, 01:53 PM | #16 | |||
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"Listening" is different though, isn't it? (Not too often a schizophrenic can be trusted for using good judgment). Cherie
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"Thanks for this!" says: | GladysD (07-26-2008) |
07-26-2008, 02:16 PM | #17 | |||
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Yes I have checked out the alanon main website
I feel that to be cast a a schizophenic, however, it would take more than just hearing a couple random bumps in the night? Once, years ago, I thought I hear my name called up the stairs....but I really don't 'hear' things. After suffering through some post-pathum issues last summer...mainly an intense fear for the safety of my children and myself. After what seemed like a hack into my computer and this in-depth article about bpd and this guy looking for his long lost wife--which was no longer there the next day, even after I saved it...well...I legitimately thought we were in danger. There are some feelings last summer, that kind of resembled shizophrenia, but...it seemed to pass, whatever it was. I was also going through a deeply spiritual awakening, and I know it was scary for me. I felt physically weak, I thought I was losing my vision, I thought my body was going to collapse before I was ready. And some old scars on my arm kept showing up and disappearing....i thought I was going to die! Plane and Simple. It was a pretty desperate time. I appreciate her concern and being there with me....however, I never felt that I would harm myself or another. SO off to the doctors I went...and voila...it's MS! I had a hard time explaining why I felt deja-vu. I was reliving/facing the reality of my past! Plain and Simple. Figured this would all come out through therapy. When I went to the psychologist shortly after my dx in the fall, I was going through some intensly tough marital problems. Of course, his solution was to have me sit in a meditation chair and try relaxation tapes. I stopped going after I felt obligated to drive in the most miserable of snow storms...just to take a cognitive test. This simple computer test...probably better for occupational therapy...*sigh* I was unhappy with the experience. Of course, then, my mother and dh were set that I no longer needed therapy....my own co-dependency issues at play. I go to the psyche board from time to time...take the sanity test and all that jazz. A little depressed...after all that an anger are the same! Well...that's all the rambling I can muster this afternoon....I'm tired....
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07-26-2008, 02:22 PM | #18 | |||
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I'm so sorry Gladys . . . I did not mean to imply I thought you were schizophrenic at all!!
PwSchizophrenia have just as many rights as anyone else though, and I know that anyone with a concern would be permitted to talk TO her doctor(s), when necessary. It would seem to me then, that a person could talk TO a doctor about any patient (with ANY condition) . . . so long as the doctor didn't divulge anything back. Cherie
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07-26-2008, 03:16 PM | #19 | |||
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Lady Express....I didn't take your comment in a defensive nor offensive manner....just being realistic with what my mother is accusing me of! Unfortunately
I'm trying to sort through all of this before I even begin to start therapy. With my own past issues of depression, I am terrified of AD's. I'm afraid of the side-effects. I want to find answers....but am terrified of being forced meds without talk therapy first and foremost. Guess I'm trying to heal too much at once I'm sorry if my message came off defensive in anyway....I try to contain my anger and toss it in a better direction...sometimes it comes through my words. I'm glad to be surrounded by compassionate souls....
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07-26-2008, 06:36 PM | #20 | |||
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Just wanted to apologize for really getting into what's eating me up. I don't really believe I have such a debilitating mental condition.
I'm learning to stop unloading my personal baggage on my friends. My Post-pathum was a scary time. I'm still searching for answers. Thanks for the replies on the topic at hand!
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