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Old 11-11-2008, 03:26 PM #1
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Hi Cherie,

i live in vancouver also...re: spinal lesions...are they detected in a thorasic, lumbar MRI or both? Specific 'MS' lesions weren't detected in my brain MRI/but i've had many MS symptoms for roughly 5 months...including some in years prior upon reflection. Re: LDN what pharmacy/doctor?

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Misti, I have been told the same thing, and all of my significant damage is in my spine as well.

The first consideration with only large spinal lesions, is that this is actually Devic's disease, not MS. Some professionals regard Devics as just a different strain of MS . . . but more and more evidence is pointing towards Devic's being a different disease process all together.

It may take time for them to figure this out though, but ultimately they will be looking for LARGE spinal lesions, with no (or few) brain lesions, and often ON occuring somewhere along the way. Those are the main considerations for a Devic's dx.

Either way, the available treatment options would theoretically be the same . . . CRABs, Tysabri, steroids, etc.

If this is MS, then the CRABs, etc. may help ward off "future" BRAIN lesions. I have had almost 18 yrs with this disease though, and I still don't have many brain lesions. The disease process, for me, has mostly centered in my spine . . . so all those years with a disease modifying drug would have been a waste of time, money, side-effects and risks (from side-effects of these potent drugs).

When it comes to spinal lesions, we don't have any real options. As I've come to interpret things, spinal lesions are not "inflammatory" (like brain ones). Steroids, CRABs, Tysabri, etc. are meant to try to control this inflammatory process in our brain . . . but have not proven very successful on our spines.

The BEST course of treatment that I have found for spinal lesions, is to avoid infection anywhere else in the body, eg. bladder, tooth, bacterial, flu, etc. This seems to be our best defense for not stirring up our spinal lesions.

If I was able to, I would probably try Minocycline, which is used off-label for MS. It is an antibiotic, which may help control infections. Unfortunately I am allergic . . .

Cherie

PS . . . I use Low Dose Naltrexone, which is off label for MS too. It has helped considerably.
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Hi Cherie,

i live in vancouver also...re: spinal lesions...are they detected in a thorasic, lumbar MRI or both? Specific 'MS' lesions weren't detected in my brain MRI/but i've had many MS symptoms for roughly 5 months...including some in years prior upon reflection. Re: LDN what pharmacy/doctor?

thanks

jack
Hi Jack,

Lesions can be found in the C, T or L "section" of the cord, BUT all (larger lesions) would be noticable by having a C & T MRI, without contrast. (In adults, the L part of the cord is housed in the T area of the spine, so those lesions would be detected in a T-spine MRI).

Do you have a dx? Did they do a MRI of your spine at all? If they did find lesions there, have you been tested for Devic's Disease?

I get my LDN from my GP because when I went on it originally, the neurologists out of UBC wouldn't rx it. Now they will though, and most people attend UBC Research Center, so you should be able to get a rx from any of them there.

I use a compounding pharmacy in the valley (which I will pm you if you get a rx and want the name) because he is the most reputable and experienced in the lower mainland. I get mine in liquid form too, due to sensitivities to fillers in almost any med, so I get the PURE powder. That method is a little more fussy (needs to be refrigerated, etc.), but it works best for me.

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