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Old 08-29-2008, 01:19 AM #1
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My bane!

http://msviewsandrelatednews.com/blo...hp?itemid=1238

I'm not sure where the last one I had fits into this discussion exactly. It was a 2 week long headache that made my skin on both sides of my face feel like it was burning/tingling (kinda like what happens in my legs on a regular basis).

I have had all different types of headaches, including what I suspect was similar to or trigeminal neuralgia. I've never been sick to my stomach with any headache however. Close, but never gotten that far before I fall asleep and sleep it off.

How about you folks? Headache sufferers out there?

What gets me is that some neurologists dismiss headaches as being part of MS... just as some are quick to dismiss pain as part of MS.
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My bane!

http://msviewsandrelatednews.com/blo...hp?itemid=1238

I'm not sure where the last one I had fits into this discussion exactly. It was a 2 week long headache that made my skin on both sides of my face feel like it was burning/tingling (kinda like what happens in my legs on a regular basis).

I have had all different types of headaches, including what I suspect was similar to or trigeminal neuralgia. I've never been sick to my stomach with any headache however. Close, but never gotten that far before I fall asleep and sleep it off.

How about you folks? Headache sufferers out there?

What gets me is that some neurologists dismiss headaches as being part of MS... just as some are quick to dismiss pain as part of MS.
I think my migraines may be linked to my MS. I have had a few (maybe 5) migraines that knocked me to the floor and wouldnt let me up for about 3 days or so.
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hi Laura, well as i told you b4 i dont normally get headaches, yet my last 3 or 4 relapses have had a severe headache prior, and lasting a couple weeks each time, my neuro has said two are not related then in same breath mentioned that spinal lesions can cause these headaches I personally feel the two are intertwined
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We got into a conversation about the various types of headaches we experience in the attached thread:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...light=headache

Besides the "spinal headaches" (my name, don't know what they really are), I apparently have "painless migraines" too . . . but the only bother they are is how they affect my eyesight, and tolerance to light and noise.

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I've gotten carsick since I was a kid. I was also told at age 6 by Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto (where my mom took me) that I was experiencing migraines, so headaches have been a lifelong thing.

My current neurologist said that car sickness not caused by ear issues is due to migraines. Interesting!

Edit: Interesting about the Naproxen. I never thought to ask for that before as far as regular headaches went (I've taken the 500mg guys plenty of times for facial pain not headache).

Maybe if I still have pain Tuesday (which I do currently from my cheekbone on the left side, up to near the center of my scalp on that side) I'll ask my GP about it when I go in to see her.
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I am also a headache sufferer long before I was dx'd with MS. I am a true migraine sufferer but also get tension headache for which I take fiorcet.

My neuro is not one who believes that migraines and MS go hand in hand and treats them separately. Migraine lesions look different than MS lesions and the radiologist has pointed that out to me.

Since I started on Topamax, I have been migraine free. I do get tension headaches occasionally and fiorcet takes care of them. I also get occasional sinus headaches and I can definitely tell the difference due to the location of the headache. Naproxen doesn't help me at all for any type of headache but I know it does help some people.

Have you had a CT scan when you get these headaches, Laura? I have had a couple of CT scans, especially when the headaches were quick onset.

I do have a spinal lesion but it's not the cause of my headaches. It's a T-spine lesion. I usually know the reason for my tension headaches
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I have had migraines since I was a child, although the first time I remember vomiting from them was when I was 15.

My dx of MS came in 2007, and prior to that I had stopped working since 1999 because of what I was told was Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia along with some unknown causes of pain in my legs and arms. (Now it's known it's been the MS all along)

My neuro can't say whether or not my migraines and MS are linked as she has both patients who have both and patients who suffer from only one or the other.

I tend to lean toward the possibility that they're linked. I'm not a medical professional but the fact that they've both been a huge part of my life and are both neurologically stemmed says something to me, and I don't think it's just coincidence.
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I have a friend who is a neurologist specializing in migraines. She's told me that migraines can absolutely be a secondary MS symptom.

She also told me that although not frequently, lesions caused from migraines and ones from MS can resemble each other. (She's seen this happen in her own practice.) In general though, MS lesions tend to be deeper in the white matter.
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I have a friend who is a neurologist specializing in migraines. She's told me that migraines can absolutely be a secondary MS symptom.
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I have no doubts that migraines are, in those with MS, frequently a resulting "symptom" of MS.

When headaches/migraines are mentioned in MS discussions, I tend to pay close attention. It's really no surprise to see folks who never suffered migraines before suddenly experiencing migraines with MS.

In any event, I get all types of different headaches and migraines. Sometimes it's hard to really evaluate it and say, "This is a headache. This is a migraine. Well, I'm not entirely sure what this is because the pain is not typical of headache or migraine!". I've had the regular old headache that I can take a couple Tylenol and rid myself of in 30 minutes, but then I've had the headaches that come on gradually over the course of a day, and no matter how many pain medications I take, the only relief is from sleeping them off.

I've had periods of being 'headache free' for months on end, and then suffering back to back headaches for months on end. It wears on you, that much is for sure.
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