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lady_express_44 09-26-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
Actually, Cherie wins the prize for the answer. There may be other similarities, but only one "right" answer....

That's exciting. :) I don't get these kinds of questions very often . . . guess helping my kids with science all the time has somehow kept me in the loop or something. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
I think that the eye thing has more to do with the rapid flipping of the cards. It's similar to the problem I had when sitting in the passenger seat when in Wales--the motion of the landscape rapidly passing by in the rearview mirror made me a bit nauseous. Plus, we'd been at it all morning and most of the afternoon when she gave me that test. The MMPI-2 was the last thing she gave me....

I get that too, Gazelle. Lot's of times when I stop, everything else doesn't. Apparently that is the definition of vertigo.

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
Cherie, I used to love my mother. She's just pulled some amazingly cruel things on me and I can't justify keeping a relationship with her. At first when she started doing it, I loved her but didn't like her. Now I don't care one way or the other. She's got problems--real problems. I could forgive her for the things she did when I was a child because she did do the best she was able, but I do not forgive her for the things she did when I was an adult. You have to draw a line somewhere. Mine was at age 36. As for my father, how do you feel about a man who gets remarried when you're 13, tells you two weeks after it, and when you ask why you and your younger brother weren't invited he responds, "We only had close family there." I'm his DAUGHTER. That was his SON. How much closer family can you get?????? :confused::confused::confused::confused: That's been the hallmark of my relationship with my father since he and my mom split.

My mom was too crazy to intend any harm, and my dad died very young . . . so maybe that was a blessing. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
I, too, hope that I get valid results this time. His office was very professionally run, so that's a nice start. But I'll reserve my judgment until I see the resulting report. (and it has nothing to do with how well I did either) ;)

I've done quite a few of these tests, just out of curiousity mostly. I was in HR for years and was interested in the personality assessments especially. I actually learned a lot from that testing, both about myself and others that did them! They feel kinda' creepy when you do them though as there never seems to be a "right" answer . . .

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
Ugh..... who remembers things like the speed of light or the world population. Seriously! I used to know "ballpark" the speed of light but who uses that generally in their daily lives? I can give you the number of feet in a mile but not the speed of light. And the world population is in the billions but how many? Yet they ask these questions.

I would fail terribly at those questions, but I think if a person did well they might actually be more worried about THEM, then they do the "normal" people. ;) I think they are testing on how you react to the stress of stupid questions more then whether you know the answer. :p

Cherie

Twinkletoes 09-26-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 376622)

tree leaves and fly wings look similar. I remember that from my botany class.

That's it? :confused:

FG, I just thought you were venturing an educated guess, being a gardenologist and all.

Ah, heck! I thought it was supposed to be a riddle or something.

So I gather a fly and a leaf have veins that make them similar? Well, then, you oughta take a look at the tops of my hands! Egad! :eek:

Twinkletoes 09-26-2008 06:02 PM

Now wait a gosh derned minute! I just read Gazelle's post that's after yours Cheryl!

I'm so confewzed. Quitcher messin wit my haid!

Good thing I didn't have to take that same test, I wouldn't have made it past the fly/tree question. :confused:

Blessings2You 09-26-2008 06:03 PM

When I was going through the process of trying to get diagnosed, my neuro suggested "we could do a neuropsych exam" or something like that.

Well, I didn't know what he meant. I was overwhelmed, he didn't explain what it was, and what it was for, and I thought it was another one of those "it's all in your head and we're gonna prove it" things.

So in his office notes, he wrote that he had recommended a neuropsych exam but I was "hesitant". It makes me sound non-compliant.

I wonder if I should have, or if it would have made any difference, other than stress me out?

tovaxin_lab_rat 09-26-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes (Post 377080)
That's it? :confused:

FG, I just thought you were venturing an educated guess, being a gardenologist and all.

Ah, heck! I thought it was supposed to be a riddle or something.

So I gather a fly and a leaf have veins that make them similar? Well, then, you oughta take a look at the tops of my hands! Egad! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes (Post 377086)
Now wait a gosh derned minute! I just read Gazelle's post that's after yours Cheryl!

I'm so confewzed. Quitcher messin wit my haid!

Good thing I didn't have to take that same test, I wouldn't have made it past the fly/tree question. :confused:

She took the test, so she knows the answer. I took botany and we compared fly wings with tree leaves. That's my answer and I am sticking to it...but I will not argue with her. She's the expect on the neuro-psych answers, I am not. :p;)

Gazelle 09-26-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessings2You (Post 377090)
When I was going through the process of trying to get diagnosed, my neuro suggested "we could do a neuropsych exam" or something like that.

Well, I didn't know what he meant. I was overwhelmed, he didn't explain what it was, and what it was for, and I thought it was another one of those "it's all in your head and we're gonna prove it" things.

So in his office notes, he wrote that he had recommended a neuropsych exam but I was "hesitant". It makes me sound non-compliant.

I wonder if I should have, or if it would have made any difference, other than stress me out?

B2Y, the one thing the neuro at Hopkins told me in January was that getting it done gives a good baseline for cognitive functioning. So the one I had 5 years ago would be a baseline (if, in fact, it is valid) and this one would show slippage (if any).

I don't know if "hesitant" makes you sound non-compliant. I don't think that it would HELP you get diagnosed and it's expensive testing. Heck, you could be "hesitant" to get spinal surgery and that's probably a prudent response to that. So don't worry about the effect of a "hesitant" in your records for a test that's not essential to a diagnostic path. ;)

The testing is rather interesting. It's just exhausting. And they do stop if you get frustrated or too stressed. So if you think you would want to do it, don't be afraid of it. It's a lot but it's useful if you have cognitive problems.

A good neuropsych should be able to give you suggestions on how to compensate for cognitive issues you might have. That in itself is worthwhile because it can help you make your life LESS stressful than it is right now if the cog problems are causing you stress.

Gazelle 09-26-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 377147)
She took the test, so she knows the answer.

But that's NOT why I know the answer. I bugged a neuropsychologist for a while and begged to know how they were similar--because I was going nuts not knowing how they were similar. Nothing made sense to me. And it was driving me crazy. The neuropsych finally took pity on me and gave me the answer. I was incredibly grateful.


I have this strange capacity for remembering odd details, meaningless trivia, strange facts. For example, water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon. I don't know if there's a difference in the weight of a gallon of salt water. It would be fun to know that. In school, I was the one bound to remember the weird rules about things. I could recite all the strange factual scenario details from a given hypothetical problem. So it bugs me when I can't remember the speed of light (I know it now) or who wrote a certain piece of literature. I also know what a certain scientist is famous for and what that scientist died of (but the latter part wasn't part of the test--just something I threw in as a bonus).

I need a life. :rolleyes:

Riverwild 09-26-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377217)
But that's NOT why I know the answer. I bugged a neuropsychologist for a while and begged to know how they were similar--because I was going nuts not knowing how they were similar. Nothing made sense to me. And it was driving me crazy. The neuropsych finally took pity on me and gave me the answer. I was incredibly grateful.


I have this strange capacity for remembering odd details, meaningless trivia, strange facts. For example, water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon. I don't know if there's a difference in the weight of a gallon of salt water. It would be fun to know that. In school, I was the one bound to remember the weird rules about things. I could recite all the strange factual scenario details from a given hypothetical problem. So it bugs me when I can't remember the speed of light (I know it now) or who wrote a certain piece of literature. I also know what a certain scientist is famous for and what that scientist died of (but the latter part wasn't part of the test--just something I threw in as a bonus).

I need a life. :rolleyes:

ROFLMAO @ the details/memory thing! I have the same problem, only since MS, I forget WHY I know it and where I put it in my head until AFTER I need the trivial fact!

I do know the weight of salt water depends on how much salt is in the gallon of water, and a cubic foot of fresh water weighs 62.2 lbs and that there are about 7.5 gallons of water in a cubic foot! ( it pays to know your hydraulics when in whitewater!)...

(Marie Curie and radiation and aplastic anemia as a result of radiation poisoning?)

tovaxin_lab_rat 09-26-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377217)
But that's NOT why I know the answer. I bugged a neuropsychologist for a while and begged to know how they were similar--because I was going nuts not knowing how they were similar. Nothing made sense to me. And it was driving me crazy. The neuropsych finally took pity on me and gave me the answer. I was incredibly grateful.


I have this strange capacity for remembering odd details, meaningless trivia, strange facts. For example, water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon. I don't know if there's a difference in the weight of a gallon of salt water. It would be fun to know that. In school, I was the one bound to remember the weird rules about things. I could recite all the strange factual scenario details from a given hypothetical problem. So it bugs me when I can't remember the speed of light (I know it now) or who wrote a certain piece of literature. I also know what a certain scientist is famous for and what that scientist died of (but the latter part wasn't part of the test--just something I threw in as a bonus).

I need a life. :rolleyes:

If you want the exact answer, you need to know the ratio of salt to water. According to what I researched, salt water weighs ~64 lbs/cu. ft., and fresh water comes in at about 62.2 lbs/cu. ft. There are 7.4805 gallons in a cubic foot. So a gallon of salt water weighs 8.556 lbs.

Aviation fuel weighs 6 pounds/gallon.

Gazelle 09-27-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverwild (Post 377232)
(Marie Curie and radiation and aplastic anemia as a result of radiation poisoning?)

Oh VERY good. VERY, very, VERY good! :winner_first_h4h:

Either that or you've watched the movie Enchanted WAY too often!

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Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 377234)
If you want the exact answer, you need to know the ratio of salt to water. According to what I researched, salt water weighs ~64 lbs/cu. ft., and fresh water comes in at about 62.2 lbs/cu. ft. There are 7.4805 gallons in a cubic foot. So a gallon of salt water weighs 8.556 lbs.

Aviation fuel weighs 6 pounds/gallon.

:Writting:


So let me draw some conclusions here:

Most people do not know the ratio of salt to water in their salt water.
Salt water weighs more per gallon than does fresh water.
Aviation fuel weighs less per gallon than both salt and fresh water.
Aviation is more inflammable than both water and salt water.


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