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Momma's Kids 11-07-2008 08:55 PM

I hope you can get something to relieve the pain and get relief...something a dental surgeon told me once was to take very warm cloth and put over the jaw joint...then open the mouth enough to get a tooth brush in.

With the end of the brush, lightly massage the very back muscle in the jaw between the gums...it did help some...might give it a try and hope it works for you...:hug:

dmplaura 11-08-2008 12:28 AM

Thank you COK.

I try to avoid the jaw because on top of everything else, I have TMJ. Sigh.

That's why I went to the dentist originally, who then told me "You have Trigeminal Neuralgia as well".

Could I get any more pain? For seriously. :p

RedPenguins 11-08-2008 11:50 PM

Ugg - sounds like a nightmare...so sorry you are experiencing this.

I, too, have TMJ - in fact, my first symptom of the MS was that the right side of my face went completely numb - from mouth to scalp. At first I was certain it was my TMJ acting up - as my jaw was not "hitting" properly. I thought - oh, maybe a pinched nerve.

I went to my dental specialist, told him what was going on - and he told me it was NOT the TMJ and to get to a neurologist as soon as possible. (Scary, huh? - but I still had NO idea it was MS - still kept thinking it must be a pinched nerve!)

Anyhow - I have heard that cymbalta is VERY good for nerve pain. It is an anti-depressant....it also seems to work well with those who have MS. In fact, I had had drug-resistant depression for years - and then two years ago the doc put me on cymbalta - and voila! Improvement for the first time in nearly 15 years! Again, this was before I knew that I had MS. Might be worth a try? Might even had additional benefits!

Good luck - and keep us posted.

~Keri

dmplaura 11-09-2008 01:21 AM

Cymbalta's one that's actually in my GP and neuro's offices (right up front) so I believe it's one both fully believe in, and very much could be a possibility. I appreciate the suggestion :) :hug:

weegot5kiz 11-09-2008 12:12 PM

I have no answer, but to say I agree with what the others have said, I have a :hug: and some positive vibrations,(said in my best bob marley voice) that this dang headache(no pun intended) goes away.hope this persistent PITA gives it a rest soon, pretty sure you would like that too:hug: I hope you can get some more answers, have any of the docs mentioned a a pain specialist?, thats who my neuro sent me to but my TN is not as bad as yours or as bad as some others on here,

dmplaura 11-09-2008 01:16 PM

My neurologist has not even admitted to recognizing that I have Trigeminal Neuralgia at all...even though my dentist who is a dental specialist specifically in the area of dental and cranial pain told me I have TN after my EMGs. :(

So it's getting the neuro to admit that TN is part of my MS first, and then proceeding from there. I didn't want TN, but I believe it is part of the puzzle for sure.

Woke up today, was fine.. for about 10 minutes, then the head pain began to start up again, so I took 2 extra str tylenol 1's with codeine, and 1 .5 mg tablet of Clonazepam, and that got the burning in check for now.

Yesterday I tried the Aleve 2 220mg (think they are?) tablets and Clonazepam, and that seemed to work decently, but I honestly believe the Tylenol with codeine works better than anything OTC wise (thankfully the pharmacy will liberally sell me tylenol with codeine... because it really does make a difference with this pain compared with regular tylenol).

If the burning pain returns yet again tomorrow... it will be Advil extra strength liquidgels and Clonazepam test.

When I had tylenol 3's paired with Clonazepam that totally kept things in check pain wise, but I know I can't be relying on that forever either.


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