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Jules A 04-05-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MooseasaurusRex (Post 491407)
I know here in NC an employer can't legally ask you about your health issues and ailments. (It may be in every state?) And as far as being 'labeled'... HA!

They don't even ask about it for your employee physical exam? Here in MD they absolutely do and even have a list of ailments like HTN, diabetes etc. MS wasn't on that list but it clearly said to add any other chronic health condition or disease and that failing to disclose is grounds for termination.

Again I wouldn't even take a health exam until I had the offer in writing and surely wouldn't advise disclosing to a supervisor if MS isn't apparent. No matter what they say I don't believe any company is actively seeking out disabled employees unless maybe its someone with a disibility like hearing or vision where it isn't going to necessarily cost them money or be likely to get worse. Just my two cents though and everyone needs to do whatever is best for their situation.

AaHaA 04-05-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules A (Post 491581)
They don't even ask about it for your employee physical exam? Here in MD they absolutely do and even have a list of ailments like HTN, diabetes etc. MS wasn't on that list but it clearly said to add any other chronic health condition or disease and that failing to disclose is grounds for termination.

Again I wouldn't even take a health exam until I had the offer in writing and surely wouldn't advise disclosing to a supervisor if MS isn't apparent. No matter what they say I don't believe any company is actively seeking out disabled employees unless maybe its someone with a disibility like hearing or vision where it isn't going to necessarily cost them money or be likely to get worse. Just my two cents though and everyone needs to do whatever is best for their situation.

WOW. That's in MD? I do live in MD, and I'm seeking employment anywhere in the DC Metro area...I shouldn't submit to a physical exam until I have the job offer in writing?!

Thank you. This is very good information!

MooseasaurusRex 04-06-2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jules A (Post 491581)
They don't even ask about it for your employee physical exam? Here in MD they absolutely do and even have a list of ailments like HTN, diabetes etc. MS wasn't on that list but it clearly said to add any other chronic health condition or disease and that failing to disclose is grounds for termination.

Again I wouldn't even take a health exam until I had the offer in writing and surely wouldn't advise disclosing to a supervisor if MS isn't apparent. No matter what they say I don't believe any company is actively seeking out disabled employees unless maybe its someone with a disibility like hearing or vision where it isn't going to necessarily cost them money or be likely to get worse. Just my two cents though and everyone needs to do whatever is best for their situation.

Ah yes, the law and how to avoid it. :D

OK. Management/classroom training for Krispy Kreme taught me that in the interview we couldn't ask any health related questions.

A few years later and I'm a salesman for Pepsi. Although the question wasn't asked verbally, it did show up in the paperwork for application. At first I was hired to get my CDLs and drive the big rigs. I had to get a physical for that and disclosed everything to the doc including my MS. It turns out the doc took issue with the MS and me driving an 18 wheeler AND MS is on the list. Some of you know my complaints with doctors and I firmly told this cat, "I really need this job."

*As it turns out the plant where I worked needed more salesman than truck drivers so the biggest thing I drove was a pick up truck to service grocery stores.

The clinic and doc I went to were used by the company but not owned by it and as far as I know Pepsi didn't get to see the doc's report.

But that's just me.

Jules A 04-06-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AaHaA (Post 491791)
WOW. That's in MD? I do live in MD, and I'm seeking employment anywhere in the DC Metro area...I shouldn't submit to a physical exam until I have the job offer in writing?!

Thank you. This is very good information!


Its a small world! :) I think it might depend on your place of employment as to whether or not they make you have a physical. I'm a nurse so they do make us get physical exams. This last place tried to schedule me for my physical the day after they made me the verbal job offer, before they would have had time to get me the paper work with my written offer...I made up an excuse and put if off until after they had the time to get me my written offer. I don't really feel they had any alter motives but I didn't want to take any chances.

My written offer was contingent on my ability to do the job which is cool. I try to be thankful that I can work and have such a great job but it was humilating for me to have to get my doctor to write a note saying that I was fit to do the same job I've been doing at another facility without problems.

Anyway I got the note and it wasn't ever mentioned again. :D Good luck!

freeinhou 04-06-2009 12:17 PM

I've never told. I've changed jobs 6 times since dx in 1988. Once you tell, you can't take it back.

My issues with MS are not blatantly obvious, so it's not that hard to not disclose.

The Federal government is fast on its way to becoming a mega-employer so if it helps getting in while printing money still works, it may be an option. I'm a civil servant (for the last 2-1/2 years) - I didn't tell them. Come to think of it, I didn't even get points for being a veteran (lower pay scales get 5 points).

My first 2 jobs were at nuclear power plants. Physicals, mental tests, the whole nine yards. No problem. I even get annuals now at NASA with only non-MS problems (the oxygen sensor thingy...).

Tom

patientx 04-10-2009 09:42 AM

This really is a small world - I'm in MD, not too far outside D.C.

In my opinion, I wouldn't disclose about your MS in the interview. Especially not to try and get an advantage in the job search. More likely, your disclosure would have the opposite effect. And once it's out there, you can't take it back. A few weeks ago, I had a beer with some former co-workers; I like to keep in touch in case I ever wanted to go back to work there. Well, I let them know I have MS, and now I'm kicking myself. I wish I could take it back.

I can't add much about the physical - I've never had a job that required one. One other thing you might want to consider though: whatever health insurance you have now, try not to let it lapse (easier said than done, I know). I believe the way the laws are written, if you get on a group policy, there is no exclusionary period for pre-existing conditions, as long as you don't have a lapse in coverage. Individual policies - that's a different story.

sheena 04-12-2009 02:27 AM

I am NC no matter what my profile says -I forget lol

Just wanted to say I agree 100% w/ elliot. Consider his words mine.

I wish u the best


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