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Old 05-17-2009, 05:34 PM #1
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Default Why Do Things Hurt Worse At Night?

Don't mean to be complaining....again........but, Is there a real reason why things always hurt worse, and tingle more, and basically most sx seem SO much worse at night. It seems that anymore, I can't get rest because I'm up and down, in and out of bed until the wee hours of the morning?????

Do I just have my days and nights backwards like a baby, or is there a real physical reason for this?????

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It makes alot of sense to me, that because of the usual stresses of the day, your muscles tighten up and are painful at night.

I find, stretching those painful muscles, thoroughly, relieves the pain and discomfort and helps to relax you, so that you can get to sleep.

Some people take a muscle relaxant at night (like Robaxin). I take the more natural approach, but also love Robaxin, when necessary.

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Maybe because there aren't so many distractions at night. I mean you are laying down to go to sleep and there is not much to distract you.
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Hi Friend2U,
I have heard of many PWMS that stay up late and get up late. I know my circadian rhythm is turned around, or broken (sigh). I can go to bed late and wake up late, and get a good night's sleep, much better than when I try for an earlier bedtime.

I do miss the mornings. If I have an early appointment, I end up with very little sleep when the alarm goes off. I have tried to turn myself around but to no avail.

I do find while up at night I "notice" more of the aches, pain and sensations more. Like the MS hug starts getting bad around 10 pm. I try to be on the net or just read a book until I'm tired enough to conk-out.

I think Karousel is right, less distractions at night. Too much peace and quiet, and you think of your pain or symptoms more. It makes them magnify out of portion to the day. JMO

I do exercise a bit and stretch like Sally said, to try to work out the stiffness. I don't know if it is all muscles spasms, or age related with me. I wake up with tightness, that takes an hour to loosen up. I sit and have coffee, then move, then sit and then move again.

If you are not as active in the evening, as the daytime, I think that has a lot to do with it. If you're worn out from the day, exhaustion does it too. I wish I knew.

What do you think might me the answer Freinds2U? It could benefit a lot of us. Maybe we need to work the night shift, ya think?
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Default I wish I knew the answer!

But it sounds like I am not alone. I really don't mind just for myself to keep the strange hours. But it's not as ideal for the rest of my family. My dh is pretty patient with me and tries to understand.

I think it is true that it is so quiet at night and once my eyes go shut, my body starts screaming at me about all it's complaints!

I get up from bed to do the stretching exercises. It is a very temporary relief, until I lie back down. Then doesn't take long for my muscles to go stir crazy again.

I'm sure since I am up moving around in the day, I just don't notice things so much.

I guess I just wish I could know if I should keep trying to fight it and try to get on the same schedule as my family... although I have tried, but to no avail.

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Oh how I wish I knew the answer to the whole sleep question with MS!!! Between it and the fibromyalgia, the pain becomes so much worse whenever I try lying/sitting still for any length of time. Plus my circadian rhythmn is messed up too -- must have something to do with that portion of our brains. Like you can see, it's now 1:05 am and sleep won't come until daylight even though the fatigue causes me to doze off in this darn chair.

I actually tried sleeping in my bed instead of recliner two nights ago, only to have to get up and switch with a terrible backache that lasted two days. Of course I can't move very much once I get in bed, not even to turn over, so that's probably why I end up so sore. If I have an appointment during the day, I make it for afternoon. Having nobody else here to worry about, it doesn't matter what hours I keep although my family and friends think it's sooooo weird sleeping during the day. If they spent a day in my shoes, they'd change their tune quickly! But when you can't go anywhere anyhow, what difference does it make?

Sorry I don't have any helpful suggestions, but just know you're not alone.

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....If I have an appointment during the day, I make it for afternoon.
I know what you mean about making afternoon appointments. I use to want the earliest appt available, so I had the rest of my day... But since the ms has progressed, I am just no good in the morning. We do have to make adjustments in our lifestyle don't we?!

I can see, at least I'm in good company... though I wouldn't wish this for anyone! You take care too!
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I know why things hurt so much at night.

That's when it's the MOST inconvenient time for you to be in pain. I mean, you're trying to sleep, and everything that can hurt is annoyed at you for moving around during the day.

So, the Pain waits till you're trying to get comfy and go to sleep, and then it comes out and says, "Remember me?? I'm here to really annoy you and make your life as difficult as it can be. Enjoy!"
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During the day, I can head off some things before they escalate--flex things that need flexing, stretch, move, re-arrange, change positions, adjust my stance or my pillows, stand up, sit down, and so on.

At night, I doze off (or not) and the discomfort gets a head start on me. I don't feel things coming on, and by the time I wake up, I'm not "ahead of the pain" anymore.

Sometimes I'm sitting here in my chair dozing off, puzzled to find myself thinking "I'm so tired, I wish I didn't have to go to bed". It's so complicated to get all of the details organized to be in one place for eight hours--(recliner tonight or bed? what's going on tomorrow?)--I'm usually oddly relieved in the morning, as if "Whew! I'm glad that's over and I don't have to do it again until tonight!"
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I work hard to get things done during the day, but at night, when its time for rest, and sleep...nope, I sit and feel my bones ache, my muscles cry, my ears itch, my mind race, and my diaphram flip. I try to use the TV to distract me, and then I look up to see its midnight, and I should have been able to turn the tube off hours ago, but my body just isnt ready. I have had to set a time limit, and force myself to TURN IT OFF by X time or I know I will wait to be in bed the whole next day from being over tired.

I too feel my symptoms more dramatically at night than during the day.

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