Okay, my mysterious onslaught of pain everywhere has mysteriously disappeared.
I'm beginning to believe it is MS related (spasticity in the flexors) and is the result of the two week trip hubby and I took to Colorado late September. We drove out with the truck camper and took the back roads going out there (stopping at all the sights). 2 weeks in the camper when the weather is beginning to change (I believe) is the culprit. I probably over did it. Spring and Fall always brings a bit of a flare up for me anyway. I am seriously going to start a daily stretching routine.
My hubby and I are both retired and he wants to travel, travel, travel. Now...while I think this is all wonderful.....is it going to kill me? Oh good grief.

I just read a medical journal article online & it says that 65% of people with MS also suffer joint pain. I hope this verifies the reality of your pain, Karilynn. It's not imagined, it's a fact. Best to you all who suffer this frustrating disease & all the symptoms of it.

Hi Dixie - and welcome to Neurotalk!

I have been having BIG issues with joint pain - in my hands, arms, legs.....even my heels hurt!! I discussed this with my Neuro when I went for my appointment last week and he prescribed Diclofenac (anti-inflammatory). He also sent me for a complete blood workup to rule out Arthritis and Lupus. I haven't gotten the results from those tests yet.

I had never heard that joint pain was a symptom of MS but nothing about this disease makes any sense to me...

Joint pain can be part of spasticity.


Welcome to NeuroTalk, Dixie

I also have the "joint pain" Karilann describes, especially in my hands, but in my legs too. It comes and stays a few days, becoming progressively more painful and then one day "WHAM" It's gone completely.

There are times it feels as if my hand or whatever is being affected is actually broken. After the initial pain is gone I will have what I call systematic cramps for a few days, where it spasms in waves, but nowhere near as painful as the initial pain!

The doc said...spasticity...and told me when it happens to up the baclofen for a few days and then taper down when it goes away. Stretching also helps, along with soaking in hot water or doing a hot wax bath on the affected area, but only for a few minutes.

It bites when it's the hands. Even holding the steering wheel hurts like hail! Forget carrying anything that has any weight to it. When it's a leg...I may as well just sit down cause I can't even carry ME!

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Pain syndromes are common in MS. In one study, 55% of people with MS had “clinically significant pain” at some time. Almost half (48%) were troubled by chronic pain. This study suggested that factors such as age at onset, length of time with MS, or degree of disability played no part in distinguishing the people with pain from the people who were pain free. The study also indicated that twice as many women as men experienced pain as part of their MS.

Several Sources and Types of Pain in MS

Acute Pain

Trigeminal neuralgia is a stabbing pain in the face. It can occur as an initial symptom of MS. While it can be confused with dental pain, this pain is neuropathic (caused by damage to the trigeminal nerve) in origin. It can usually be treated with medications such as the anticonvulsants carbamazepine (Tegretol®) or phenytoin (Dilantin®).

Lhermitte’s sign is a brief, stabbing, electric-shock-like sensation that runs from the back of the head down the spine, brought on by bending the neck forward. Medications, including anticonvulsants, may be used to prevent the pain, or a soft collar may be used to limit neck flexion.

Burning, aching or “girdling” around the body are all neurologic in origin. The technical name for them is dysesthesias. These pains are often treated with the anticonvulsant medication gabapentin (Neurontin®). Dysesthesias may also be treated with an antidepressant such as amitriptyline (Elavil®), which modifies how the central nervous system reacts to pain. Other treatments include wearing a pressure stocking or glove, which can convert the sensation of pain to one of pressure; warm compresses to the skin, which may convert the sensation of pain to one of warmth; and over-the-counter acetaminophen (Tylenol® and others) which may be taken daily, under a physician’s supervision.

Duloxetine hydrochloride (Cymbalta®) was approved by the FDA in 2004 for treatment of depression and treatment of pain associated with diabetic peripheral neuropathy. Cymbalta® belongs to the group of medications known as selective serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SSNRIs). Although not specifically approved for use in MS, its effectiveness in diabetic neuropathy makes it a suitable candidate for the treatment of neuropathic pain in MS, and MS specialists consider it a good treatment option for people with MS.

Pregabalin (Lyrica®), also approved by the FDA in 2004, is recommended for the treatment of neuropathic pain associated with diabetes, fibromyalgia and certain types of seizures. Although not specifically approved for use in MS, it is also considered a good treatment option for people with MS.
Chronic Pain

Burning, aching, prickling or “pins and needles” may be chronic rather than acute. The treatments are the same as for the acute dysesthesias described above.

Pain of spasticity has its own subcategories. Muscle spasms or cramps, called flexor spasms, may occur. Treatments include medication with baclofen (Lioresal®) or tizanidine (Zanaflex®), ibuprofen, or other prescription strength anti-inflammatory agents. Treatment also includes regular stretching exercises and balancing water intake with adequate sodium and potassium, as shortages in either of these can cause muscle cramps. Tightness and aching in joints is another manifestation of spasticity, and generally responds well to the treatments described above.

Back and other musculoskeletal pain in MS can have many causes, including spasticity. Pressure on the body caused by immobility, incorrect use of mobility aids, or the struggle to compensate for gait and balance problems may all contribute. An evaluation to pinpoint the source of the pain is essential. Treatments may include heat, massage, ultrasound, physical therapy and treatment for spasticity.

Pain and the Emotions

Most pain in MS can be treated. But not all pain a person with MS has is due to MS. Whatever the source, pain is a complex problem that should not be ignored. Many factors may contribute, including fear and worry. A multidisciplinary pain clinic may be able to treat chronic disabling pain with medication in combination with such alternative therapies as biofeedback, hypnosis, yoga, meditation or acupuncture. Self-help may also play an important role in pain control. People who stay active and maintain positive attitudes are often able to reduce the impact of pain on their quality of life.

Hello, I have joint pain too. I like stretching and I take a mineral for anti-inflammatation (sp). As crazy as it sounds progesterone cream seems to help too. Good luck!