Originally Posted by Lady

tkrik is correct, IMO.
Thyroid and perhaps a herniated disc in the back.


Did you know that you can't take Coenzyme Q10 and many listed herbs while on Thyroid medication? I have a Hashimoto's Thyroid Dx also.

I used a blue color to identify some of my thoughts since I am Thyroid meds too. It is an auto-immune disease. Your body is attacking your Thyroid.

You should be seen by and Endocrinologist to check your Pituitary and Hypothalamus gland also. An Eye specialist and a Orthopedist for your back and numbness. Just my thoughts on your questions.

As for MS? You have to "wait and see" a while longer, or see a MS specialist for the correct tests.

Originally Posted by MetalMX

I am a 20 year old male. I have been having these symptoms for about a year, in march they suddenly got better/improved then they got worse again.

- Seeing flashing spots in front of eyes when blinking sometimes
- seeing floaters or what looks like worms in the vision running around at times
- chronic fatigue/ feeling of generalised weakness
- sometimes air hunger/feeling breathless for no reason
- poor appetite
- muscle weakness
- reduction in the sense of touch
- tingling/pins and needles all over the arms, legs, head, and other parts of the body
- poor short term memory/difficulty remembering
- cold hands
- heart rate feels like its sometimes alternating fast with slow
- pulsing sensation in the neck and in the stomach
- hard to exercise/tolerance to exercise diminishing where as before i was able to exercise easily.
- mood alternating with good to suddenly feel suicidal
- sometimes feeling like i cannot speak (although this has been not very frequent)
- bowel movements all over the place


I have hashimoto's thyroiditis and am being treated with armour thyroid.

Am wondering if these symptoms are consistent with MS?

Im about to do EMG and nerve conduction studies with my neurologist also. My regular blood work has also always been generally normal.

I did a CT scan of the brain which showed posterior cortical atrophy abnormal for a patient of my age. Rest of the brain appeared normal.

I also have a moderate thoracic kyphosis. I sometimes when i lie on my back get numbness in a leg and a whole leg can go numb and feel very weird tingly for a minute and then it goes away. I was getting a massage the other day and when the masseur was massaging along my spine they pressed a bit harder with their elbow and i had really bad tingling down both my arms and legs, after i felt a bit disorientated/weird.

Also i have low IGF-1 levels 19 (24 - 102) nmol/L

It appears this itself (GH deficiency) can cause these symptoms... which GH could relieve.

So i am trying to figure out if this is being caused by MS or IGF-1 deficiency.

Originally Posted by MetalMX

I did a pituitary MRI last year and was injected with a contrast containing gadolinium this also made me break out in hives. I did a hair analysis (to check my mercury levels) and my gadolinium is now elevated so i don't need any extra heavy metals added to this and i refuse to be injected with radioactive dyes of any kind. Gadolinium is a rare earth metal it is never meant to be injected into a human being

Originally Posted by tkrik

If you had a reaction to the contrast before they will NOT give it to you. Be sure to let them know of your previous reaction prior to your MRI. Let your prescribing dr know as well as they will put on the order that the MRI is to be done without contrast.

Let us know how it all goes. Wishing you luck.

Originally Posted by MetalMX

I might have had a B12 deficiency but i was using sublingual methylcobalamin 5mg so this helped with certain b12 symptoms i had.

I have been seen by a neurologist and he has done EMG and nerve conduction studies and apparently something is wrong with my nerves, their is some damage their. He notes to the peripheral nerves.

We don't know what is going on yet but he sent me to do a Brain MRI, Spinal MRI, and blood tests. He also wanted to exclude MS from these tests.

From: The Neurological Manifestations of Gastrointestinal Disease by Mark Skeen, MD.
Neurologic Clinics
Volume 20 € Number 1 € February 2002

"The most common manifestations are paresthesias, ataxia, memory loss, and extremity weakness.[88] Cerebral symptoms are reported frequently and on occasion they are the only manifestation.[88] Subacute combined degeneration of the spinal cord occurs, with degeneration of dorsal columns and corticospinal tracts. In many patients, peripheral neuropathy accompanies spinal cord manifestations, and paresthesias and loss of vibratory sensation may result from either or both pathologic processes. Although it is frequently difficult to distinguish which site of pathology is primarily responsible for distal sensory changes, some studies have demonstrated the existence of mixed axonal and demyelinating sensorimotor neuropathies.[41]
[104] "

"Subacute combined degeneration has also been reported in a patient with a high serum vitamin B12 level and an abnormal plasma vitamin B12 -binding protein.[130] Serum methylmalonic acid and homocysteine levels rise as a marker of tissue deficiency of cobalamin and decline in response to therapy.[81] [89] [106] Although serum methylmalonic acid level appears to be the most sensitive single test for tissue deficiency, further sensitivity results from the determination of both metabolites.[81] [89] [106] In addition, the demonstration of falling metabolite levels after therapy adds diagnostic certainty in atypical cases.[89