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Nicknerd 01-11-2010 06:07 PM

PMC,

What dosage of potassium do you take? Did the doc. say of this is safe?

P.S. Did it help the moonface at all?

PMCPMC 01-11-2010 06:17 PM

one tablet 99mg per day
 
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Originally Posted by Nicknerd (Post 609484)
PMC,

What dosage of potassium do you take? Did the doc. say of this is safe?

P.S. Did it help the moonface at all?

My brother in boston who was home for the new year uses it because his blood pressure medicine also upsets the pott/sodium balance.
I have such a wonderful overwieght mccann moonface its hard to tell

dog lover 01-12-2010 04:44 PM

Moonface and other prednisone side-effects
 
Hi again Nicky,
I had been feeling better but over the weekend started feeling sick again. I have 2 days worth of antibiotics left which my neuro said is not going to do it. He told e to go back and see my Int. Med Dr. again. It is really kind of scary. I worry that I am never going to get well!!! I have bronchitis and a sinus infection and I just can't seem to kick it. Hopefully I can get a stronger antibiotic this time and that will take care of it.

You have heard of others having high platelets and MG? Wow that makes me wonder too if there is a connection?

I know you are right about our bodies detecting something being off even before we know it. When I first started having MG symptoms I swore I felt bad because I was under so much stress. I honestly don't know when I would have figured out it was something much more serious if the ptosis hadn't of started.

I worry about Osteoporosis too. I take 1800 mg of calcium daily but take 600 mg am and 1200 pm. I read what you wrote about it not being fully absorbed when taken with other meds. I have been doing that!!! I guess I need to figure out another time of day to take it. Gosh I hope all this time I haven't been not absorbing it. I'm so glad you posted that.
Kendra

Pat 110 01-12-2010 05:49 PM

Kendra, Does your Calcium have vit. D included? Pat

dog lover 01-12-2010 06:06 PM

Moonface and other prednisone side-effects
 
Pat,
Yes it does have vit. D included.
Kendra

PMCPMC 01-12-2010 07:22 PM

calcium in liquid form
 
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Originally Posted by dog lover (Post 609822)
Pat,
Yes it does have vit. D included.
Kendra

My 93 year old mum always has problems with taking her calcium so recently got GP to prescribe sachets of calcium which can be dissolved in water and i am assuming would be absorbed better.:grouphug:

kiwiwall 01-12-2010 08:33 PM

response to prednisone
 
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Originally Posted by Nicknerd (Post 605247)
Hey guys,

I've recently started tapering down on my prednisone from 60mgs to 50mgs per day as of Dec. the 1st. I've noticed more frequently now than before that my moonface isn't as prominent some days. In fact, today, it went down significantly, although it's still a bit swollen. I'm a bit confused about the moonface side-effect. I read that the side-effects of prednisone are lipodystrophy and in brackets beside this was written buffalo hump, moonface and fat redistribution to the trunk, with less distribution to the legs and arms. So I'm just wondering: is the moonface actually caused by fat redistribution or water retention? It seems to me that it would be water, since it goes down sometimes and this sorta seems to be related to my salt intake. Since starting the 50mgs, I've also been more conscious about how much salt I'm eating, and am eating less of it, and try to avoid it as much as possible (which is really hard, btw argh).

Has anyone been able to keep their moonface at bay with a special diet, or taking the prednisone at certain times of the day or even exercise? I walked a lot today, and took my prednisone a bit earlier than usual. I also had a plasma exchange after I took my prednisone. Maybe all these things combined kept the swelling down?

P.S. I really hate the moonface, in case you haven't noticed! lol

Ttys!
Nicky

Hi Nickey,

I went through the same exact situation in 2000. I was on 80 milligrams a day and 100 milligrams of cytoxan for a tumor in my head. The moonface will only lesson as you come off the prednisone. Once you are totally off it, in time you will lose the hump oin you neck and the water retention will go away, eventually. while ur still on the pred try to eat a raw diet and veggies and greens. i know thats aweful advice but there is nothing else u can do. I totally know how aweful the side affects of pred are....but the drug does work. the walking will help but really eating the greens and fruit is a win win because it is putting all the healthy stuff back ur body....and ur body needs it since the pred is working on what it needs to buy it is depleating ur body of all the healthy vitamins. good luck!

Nicknerd 01-12-2010 09:05 PM

Thanks for posting this, Kiwiwell!

I was just feeling so down because my cousin posted some pics. from Christmas on Facebook (I told him to not tag anyones with me in them...I know, it's vain and rediculous)...Anyway, he forgot, and tagged me...I look like I weigh 1000 lbs based on my mug, but then when you see my body, it's so much smaller- I just look flat-out weird...

But then I started to think, well, people should know what I look like now and whatever, it doesn't really matter if my head's enormous...There are so many worse things out there, a temporarilly ginormous head isn't the end of the world, although it does mean that I have to purchase even larger hats to offset the head, and sombreros aren't easy to come by...Plus, if people don't like it, they can kiss. lol

I'm sorry about the tumour- is it gone now? Are you still taking the same meds.? It's funny that you mention the raw veggies, because I love eating them- I crave the crunch and juiciness of carrots and celery and so on...

Thanks for the advice and for reaching out with the very helpful info.!:hug:

Nicky

Nicknerd 01-12-2010 09:45 PM

Kendra,

Bronchitis sucks- are they sure it's bacterial? It might be from a virus, or smoking...I remember last year after I had stopped smoking for a month, I started again, and got a wicked case of bronchitis, but it was from smoking I think, as I didn't have a fever, just a lot of phlegm and aching and such...I stopped smoking again, and it went away within a few days...It could have been a combo. of a virus and smoking, though...

It would be rough to have to deal with that while being on prednisone...i have a really bad cough too often, with lots of phlegm, but it's never yellow, always white, so I'm not sure what's causing it...it might be the mestinon as it increases secretions throughout the body...

I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that Erin has high platelets...I remember her mentioning that before...If I'm wrong, and you read this, Erin, let me know! :o and then I remember someone else saying that they also had this problem, but I think that it was someone from a long time ago...Something I came across while going through old postings...

About the calcium and it competing for absorption...As far as I know, it always wins in the competition lol...SO you prolly have been getting your calcium all this time, but the other meds. may not have been absorbed as well...Certain types of antibiotics are similar...They can't be taken with food or other medicines, so check those out too...Boy, it's hard when you have to take a medicine every 3-hours, eh? Mestinon is a saviour but it's also a diva!:wink:

:hug:
Nicky

Pat 110 01-13-2010 08:44 AM

Nicky, When I am having terrible side effects from Mestinon, I call it a B****, but Diva has a certain flare to it! lol Thanks for the chuckle!

Kendra, My cousin takes Calcium + D as do I and bought this huge jug of I think 600 tablets at such a great price. When she was about half way through it, I was visiting her and noticed there was no D on the label! So all this time she was only getting calcium, and from what I've been told without the D doesn't do much. She had to buy a bottle of D to take with the rest. I read somewhere that the majority of women do buy only Calcium. Didn't mean to be a mama hen! I hope you feel better soon.

Hugs,
Pat


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