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Old 04-01-2011, 10:08 AM #1
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Hi,

I just need a few quick questions answered. I used to be on the forum quite a bit but drifted away due to having the MG diagnosis removed.

I started florinef one week ago and the MG type symptoms that haven't been a real problem for about twelve months now have raised their ugly head. I am having full on ptosis, bilateral and unilateral, choking on liquids, neck weakness and breathing problems. I am back taking mestinon even though I have problems with it. The mestinon resolves all my issues. But I am having to take between 60mg -120mg before it makes any difference. I don't have any side effects other than stomach cramps.

For those of you who have been on steroid treatment and had an exacerbation of symptoms how quickly did these get back under control?

I spoke to my consultant today and he doesn't want me to increase the florinef just stick at 100 micro grams. He doesn't believe that the steroids are making my MG like symptoms worse - but hes a geriatric specialist not a neurologist and his knowledge of MG would fit on the back of a postage stamp.

I don't have a neurologist as neurology say theres nothing wrong with me. Due to the UK system I have no easy access to neurology unless I get so ill I am admitted to hospital. Believe me I don't want that so I am happy to treat with mestinon.

So thats my latest dilemma!

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Hi Rach!

I cannot take steroids -- but, here is some info that might help explain what is going on -- problems you are having. Here is a tiny quote from a large section that you might want to read.

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Therefore, in severe MG, especially if there is
significant bulbar or respiratory weakness, the initial stages of
corticosteroid therapy should be performed either in the
hospital or under very close outpatient supervision.
(page 10)

http://www.uwo.ca/cns/resident/pocke...uscular/MG.pdf
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Hi Rach,
I experienced a sudden exacerbation of my MG symptoms when my prednisone was increased to 60 mg daily. The significant weakness that I felt lasted for about a week to 10 days, then gradually diminished to symptoms that were much more manageable (and a lot less scary).

Your symptoms sound severe. Don't hesitate to go into the ER, particularly with breathing difficulties. My current neuro said that she wouldn't start patients on high doses of steroids at home, specifically b/c of the risk of an MG exacerbation.

I hope your condition improves quickly.

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Default Hi Catie and Jana

Thank you for your replies.

I have been told that 100 micro grammes of florinef is equal to about 10mg of cortisone. However I am on the contraceptive pill cerazette which increases the potency of florinef.

Its weird as I didn't have this reaction with pred. Florinef has been prescribed to boost my blood pressure and blood volume. Not for MG as I do not have an MG diagnosis.

Thankfully I have oxygen at home so if I have problems I can dose up on mestinon and hook up the oxygen. I have a pulse ox as well plus BP monitors - my house is starting to resemble the set of ER.

I knew the reaction was transitory I just wanted a rough idea on how long it could last for. So thanks for giving me a rough idea.

At the moment any time out of bed is leading to an exacerbation of symptoms.So I am trying to have bed rest as much as possible to avoid the ptosis and shortness of breath.

Thank you for taking the time to reply - its more help than I got on a different forum!

Rach

Last edited by rach73; 04-02-2011 at 03:01 PM. Reason: should say cortisone not pred sorry my mistake
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What is the purpose of the steroids with MG anyway?
I am not sure I understand why they are prescribed for people with MG, is it inflamation of the respiratory system the drs are trying to calm down?
Just curious.
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Hi

steroids are prescribed due to the fact MG is an autoimmune disease, to dampen down the immune system MG patients are given steroids. Thus the body (the immune system) stops attacking the neuro muscular junction.

In other autoimmune diseases that do include an inflammatory process such as lupus or RA, its the combined anti inflammatory effect and the immune system dampening down, is why steroids are used.

I hope this helps Smokey.

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I'd like to add something here:

Florinef is a different type of steroid.. It targets water/sodium metabolism, primarily and weakly inflammation (in high doses or over longer periods of time). (unlike prednisone).

So it would not have a severe side effect profile like prednisone does.

Here is a monograph on it:
http://www.rxlist.com/florinef-drug.htm

People who have had adrenal glands removed due to tumors often take both, Florinef and Cortef.
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