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Old 08-09-2012, 10:35 AM #71
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Correction:

they fully know they are peddling poison, but the leased Merc. in the driveway has payments forever.

i paid cash for mine and made the $ without doing harm to others.






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Or maybe they know that you've made your mind up that they're poison peddlers and don't want to spend their free time arguing with you.

It may be just my bias based on what you've posted in this forum, I disagree with most of what you're saying, but it appears to me that you seize onto partial concepts and are missing big picture of what people are telling you. For example, your comment regarding Soy... yeah, the oil from the soy bean is really slippery and stable so it is used as an effective and inexpensive lubricant. People used to use olive oil for lamps... doesn't mean that it cannot be used for other purposes.
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I am not going to waste 90 minutes of my time listen to a snake oil salesman. If he is legit, then you should be able to explain what I asked about the enzymes.

The question is:

Why does it matter if we eat enzymes (cooked or raw) when we are going to break them down into their component parts (amino acids) before they are absorbed?


If you can give me a scientific explanation for the complex physiological "logic" behind this, I might consider watching the video.

For that matter, what mammalian species can absorb whole proteins through its digestive tract as an adult anyway? None that I am aware of, and I do have a detailed knowledge of many mammalian species and the different species unique digestive physiological processes.
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So they know they're poison peddlers... do they and their families follow the same "pure/raw" vegan lifestyle you're advocating here? or do they take the white powder when they feel it is needed?
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Another question that I have is why is it immoral for a physician to charge for his services. I don't work for free. Most of us don't. We work together as a collective society.
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one last thread......

lets poison the babies right out of the starting gate.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...t-formula.aspx

Martek's patent and safety filings at the FDA, discovered that the product also contains synthetic chemicals, stabilizers, carriers, and some of the ingredients are also genetically modified.

For starters, Martek's synthetic oils are extracted using a toxic petrochemical solvent called hexane—a process that's just about as NON-organic as you can get. Hexane extraction is widely used in the production of oils, such as fatty acids and vegetable oils, but is banned in organic produce because it's a non-organic material.

got fungus and toxic hexane, hope not.
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As you are writing this on an internet forum and an unsuspecting patient can read this, I will respond to what you write.

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this lad knows his science. try and refute it.

you can't.


This guy is a stand-up comedian. I have heard very little science in his lecture.

So, what exactly do you want me to refute?


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if the food is so poisonous it has to be vitamin fortified, you probably don't want it.
I can't say I even begin to understand this sentence. No food has all the vitamins and minerals that our body requires. Fortification of foods (which is again controversial) is meant to correct nutritional deficiencies which are common in the modern society.


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soy is an industrial lubricant but the gmo'd version should be fine to eat and drink.......
I am sorry, but soy is a natural bean. You can even get an organically grown product.

http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com/...oy%20Beans.htm


I have watched (some of it) and can't say I have learned much.

I definitely did not receive an intelligent or convincing answer as to why you need to have enzymes in your food.

I mostly learned that (unfortunately) there are people who write on the wall "except miracles" give a pretty good stand up comedy, present themselves as educated medical professionals (when they are clearly not) and present themselves as superior in knowledge and efficiency to the medical profession.

I am more than ready to have a serious discussion and learn from those who do have better knowledge than me.

I am more than ready to learn from patients about their personal experiences.

I am not ready to listen to demagogic nonsense of those taking advantage of people who are ill.

Did you ever ask yourself how much money this guy makes from selling "miracles" ?
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Brian,

you are on mest. and it is working to mask the symptoms.

that is all that really matters.

as you spiral down and your organs blow out, a different fork in the road may have been a better choice.

time will tell.




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the FDA is the largest snake oil peddler, bar none.

you already are already on board that train.

good luck with that.





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I am not going to waste 90 minutes of my time listen to a snake oil salesman. If he is legit, then you should be able to explain what I asked about the enzymes.

The question is:

Why does it matter if we eat enzymes (cooked or raw) when we are going to break them down into their component parts (amino acids) before they are absorbed?


If you can give me a scientific explanation for the complex physiological "logic" behind this, I might consider watching the video.

For that matter, what mammalian species can absorb whole proteins through its digestive tract as an adult anyway? None that I am aware of, and I do have a detailed knowledge of many mammalian species and the different species unique digestive physiological processes.
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Seventeen of the thirty elements known to be essential to life are metals.

Mineral deficiencies cause disease in humans.

Minerals also have a synergistic relationship with vitamins.

When foods are cooked, many of the minerals are destroyed, or altered, rendering them useless and also unable to assist the vitamins.

Phytonutrients are what give fruits and vegetables their color.

Phytos protect the body and fight disease.

They also fight cancer and help your heart.

Phytonutrients are at leading edge of research on nutrition. They provide medicine for cell health.

And once again, Phytonutrients in freshly harvested plant foods can be destroyed or removed by cooking.

so crank up the heat and kill off your food.

" dead meat " has more than one meaning.

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Why does it matter if we eat enzymes (cooked or raw) when we are going to break them down into their component parts (amino acids) before they are absorbed?


If you can give me a scientific explanation for the complex physiological "logic" behind this, I might consider watching the video.
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Brian,

you are on mest. and it is working to mask the symptoms.

that is all that really matters.

as you spiral down and your organs blow out, a different fork in the road may have been a better choice.

time will tell.
Yes I am on mestinon. Without it, I cannot eat because I cannot initiate a swallow. I don't know how I'd manage a raw vegan diet as my only "cure".
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