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Old 02-06-2013, 03:46 AM #1
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Ah, sometimes I think most of them (neurologists) are just kind of "funny".
I've seen many, many specialist. I've been to at least one doc every specialism.
And well, not to generalize of course, but they just always seem to be a bit strange in their contact wit patients, kind of like they lack some kind of social skills.
This is just my experience, but my reumatologists never say: "oh you look all bloated" and make a sound to indicate my moonface "PFFFRRRT" when I show myself after starting prednisone. My haematologist or endocrinologist accept that I'm not just a random patient who lies there and waits for god-in-white-coat-almighty to do something, but that I want to be involved. Two neurologists talking about me, and use stuff like "globulines" and "melanoma" smile and say "Just look the other way, we're talking difficult stuff here. It's jibberish for you".

Not to generalize, there must be some non autistic out there.

Good luck with an enocrinologist! I know the best, he is fantastic, my best doc ever. He's not in the US though, sorry.
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Ravenclaw, do you have LEMS?

We've got a holistic pharmacy in town, so I reached out to them for a list of alternative-minded MD's with various specialities. I'm going to try my luck with a neurologist from that list. In my experience, the alternative-minded doctors often will have a better bedside manner, be more communicative and take more time explaining things. We'll see how it goes,.. the neurologist I chose from the list gets excellent online reviews from his patients. Fingers crossed I can see him within a reasonable time period.

I'm not as impressed by the endocrinologists on the pharmacy's list but I set an appointment with one that's hopefully promising. If I don't have luck, maybe I'll fly to where you are and visit yours. I'm overdue for a vacation. Can I leave my body behind?
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You know I think you may be onto something with the POTS/dysautonomia. I have that as well and it can be VERY debilitating, AND mestinon is the treatment for it, so you would feel better with mestinon! Your breathing symptoms and chest pain actually do sound a lot like my dysautonomia symptoms...and I have it as part of small fiber neuropathy, which causes me a lot of loss of feeling in my fingers, and feet as well. It makes me off balance. It's very hard to walk up stairs without being out of breath and getting bad chest pain if I haven't taken mestinon, but it's the dysautonomia causing that part, not the MG. The symptoms are different. I'd make an appt for a tilt table test and autonomic workup. POTS can be very, very incapacitating.
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So I saw the much anticipated MG-expert neuro that local MG'ers have raved about. In my opinion, the guy wasn't the expert I'd been led to believe (although he sees 50-60 MG patients). He told me point-blank MG doesn't cause urinary incontinence, never has pain associated, said that everybody responds to Tensilon (himself & my friend included),... I didn't dare object since I'd be provoking the bear. He wasn't interested in dialogue, cutting me off & demanding brief 'yes' 'no' responses. He laughed at me when I said I've had symptoms periodically since I was a kid, saying, "You have not had MG all your life!" The guy was a jackbutt.

He didn't do an extended muscle fatigability test either. His version lasted under 5 minutes & included checking arm & neck strength, following his finger, rocking once forward then back on toes/heels,... He did sustain the counter pressure for longer than I've experienced with other doctors, and he was much more demanding that I apply every ounce of strength. As a result, I didn't experience the 30-minute delayed 'blue ball muscle fatigability' I've described in another thread. In fact,.. I seemed to gain some of my strength, and even my breathing got easier. This I was not expecting... it didn't last too too long, I'm back on oxygen tonight.

I'm now suspecting that this could be Lambert-Eaton Myasthenic Syndrome (LEMS) rather than MG (keeping in mind I respond to both Mestinon & Tensilon). Also associated with LEMS is postural hypotension which would explain the wide range of blood pressure readings in a short time period (142/99 to 103/31) and corresponding breathing difficulties (especially lying down -- feels like I'm being strangled).

A doctor at the hospital the other day already ran the LEMS-associated VGCC antibody test so I'm waiting on the results. Also, the autoimmune variation of LEMS is associated with the same HLA subtype (HLA-DR3-B8) connected to Autoimmune Polyglandular Syndrome (which I have).

Today's neuro is having me come back Feb 18 for a repetitive stimulation test. Hopefully, that will indicate if this is LEMS. In the meantime, I'll keep my theories away from the doctor's ears since he appears openly hostile to my input. Whatever happens, this guy won't be my permanent neuro. I don't feel the need to pay money for abuse.

In the meantime, I'm terrified of an approaching weakness backlash from having strained so hard today. Breathing is already so compromised and I have felt the depths of the depths of the depths of muscle weakness to the point of near paralysis (moved one finger on keyboard to communicate). I've got a pulmo appt on Thursday so maybe they can get me more answers & help.
This frustrates me as a healthcare provider! Sometimes the "experts" get clouded with the "patient load" and overlook the human sitting in front of them that is in desperate need of answers!! I'm so sorry that you were treated this way and pray that you will soon find answers to your illness.
Side note- You can actually report this MD to the Board of Neurologist in your state.
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