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AnnieB3 06-23-2014 04:13 AM

Cyanocobalamin won't be used by your body. It is stored in the liver and is converted to methylcobalamin before the body can utilize it. Your body, due to the MTHFR, does not make that conversion happen. It never will.

Do you know exactly what the description was of what they saw on any scopes of your stomach? Scopes don't show GERD. They show inflammation, or other such identifiable signs. Did they ever test your stomach's pH while down there?

The chance of you having too much stomach acid is pretty low. Our stomachs age, just as every other part of the body does. And the symptoms of too much and not enough stomach acid are very similar.

Okay, here's the gross part. Do you ever see undigested food or tablets in your poops? That's another sign it's not enough stomach acid.

What are your symptoms about 30 - 90 minutes after you eat?

Have you ever tried to have apple cider vinegar with your food? It has a similar effect as Betaine HCL does.

Vitamin deficiencies are no small thing! They can lead to disease states.

If you don't have stomach acid, food literally putrefies in the GI tract, causing inflammation, which can lead to infection and cancer.

The drug companies push antacids/acid blockers, etc. as though they were candy. It makes me nuts. Short term use of them can cause problems as well. They make it seem as though everyone on the planet has an acid problem. Only about 4% do, and they are mostly young people.

You have to understand that many doctors did not learn about hypochlorhydria (low stomach acid) or achlorhydria (no stomach acid) in school. Or if they did, that knowledge has since been replaced by the status quo of GERD and drugs. Doctors are pushed hard to prescribe acid blockers/inhibitors. How often do you ever hear about a lack of stomach acid in TV ads? Never, because the drug companies don't have a product to sell you for that.

I'm so exhausted by this topic. I could go on and on about it. Just be sensible and do some research. Achlorhydria alone can cause absorption issues. It did with me.

BTW, did they ever retest you for celiac or test you for pernicious anemia?

I hope you can get all of this figured out. Have patience about progress, though. It might take a while.

Annie

bny806 06-24-2014 05:51 AM

Thank yall so much!!!

My scopes showed esophagitis, gastritis, (abnormal Z line as well), and then my colon was friable everywhere they biopsied... The small bowel follow through showed possible polyps in the small bowel.. though my pill cam didn't show anything abnormal (I had read inflammation, and of course cancers AND celiac can cause small bowel polyps)..

my blood tests were negative for celiac.. my scopes didn't appear like celiac.. though I was gluten free for all of the above for a while.. before this last scope, I attempted to "gluten it up" for 4 days prior.. but I had read you should for 6 weeks to be accurate.. those 4 days I didn't eat much, as it made me sooo sick.. I have 2 family members with celiac (diagnosed as adults).. and I had massive weight loss/malabsorption 3 years ago when this all started.. The more I ate.. the hungrier I was.. I thought I should just eat more and more cookies, I needed calories.. but the more I ate, the more I lost- it was crazy! So, I stay gluten free strictly.. have been for 3 years.. I attempt it every once in a while - but I get blisters on my hands and then worsened GI issues + wt loss..

30-90 min after I eat.. depending on how calm my GI issues are in general.. at the worst about 20 minutes after I eat I can have pain and start feeling a LUQ tummy ache.. When I am having a bad flare.. the second I ate, I have to use the restroom.. 90 min after I eat things usually have calmed down, unless it's an all day mad GI day.. I also can have an issue where I develop tachycardia and get flushed about 10-15 min after I ate.. and sometimes it stimulates massive hunger...


I actually have a Rx for xifaxin to take to treat SIBO.. but I wanted to wait until I had a few days off work to start it! Yall heard of this?

Again, I am supposed to be taking a PPI.. but havne't, as I want my body to have a better chnace of absorbing the B12 first...

mrsD 06-24-2014 06:37 AM

To keep the GI tract mucosa healthy, one has to have Omega-3's in the diet.

Also I'd suggest Kefir...as this has 12 strains of probiotics in it.
(more than any other food source).

Excessive motility, and flushing can be a serotonin reaction.
This can come from tumors around the GI tract called carcinoids.
This is not common, but is overlooked in difficult to diagnose patients.

http://www.carcinoid.com/patient/und...62109045829652

Not everyone gets all the symptoms, but as the tumors spread past the liver, the symptoms increase.(serotonin escapes into the general circulation then).

This is why some people on SSRI antidepressants get diarrhea and flushing too...it is a serotonergic response.

I'd also suggest some high dose biotin..this helps alot with skin and mucosal linings. 5mg a day for a while may show you some improvements. This is inexpensive and not a toxic type supplement and often overlooked by doctors. Difficult GI problems often respond to biotin, even chronic canker sores in the mouth. I get mine at Puritan's, and now Costco has started selling Natrol brand.


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