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07-03-2021, 11:07 AM | #1 | |||
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Welcome, Daniel2!
What you're describing sounds like sciatica to me, and I have the impression that you think so too. I've had similar problems for about 20 years now. They were so bad a couple of times that I asked my primary care doctor about them. I've had several rounds (8 sessions each time) of physical therapy about it, and those did help me. Maybe you had a less competent physical therapist and could look around for a better one and try again? As I understand it, degenerative disc disease just happens to many of us as we get older, and there are doctors will do surgery for it but increasingly the medical profession has been backing off on that idea and going with more conservative treatment, like physical therapy. I've found that just trying out this routine and that routine until I find one that I can live with is another way to cope with sciatica. Finding even a slightly different standing or sitting or lying position can make a big difference. The shoes you wear can also make a big difference. You might want to consult a podiatrist about properly fitting shoes. I keep up with the physical therapy exercises I was told to do. Every day without fail I do them. I'm not free of the pain and the hobbled walking but I haven't had any more of the really crippling episodes that I did have a few times in the past. Sorry I can't come up with anything more helpful but these are the ways I deal with sciatica.
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07-03-2021, 01:47 PM | #2 | ||
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OP: In reading your info I don't think I saw any mention of surgery done to the body? Is that true?
My worst issues came on after hip replacement in 2010, and before I've dealt with OA anyway. Now all worse and plenty of neuropathy. And I was also told I have Fibromyalgia that was in 1999, so it's a bag of a lot of stuff in my life. And advanced age, 83 soon. On the Sciatic nerve, my issue came on after hysterectomy in the 80's I was in my 40's, so for me it's been decades of sciatic nerve damage. I'.ve done a lot of body work in my life and sadly the damage does not reverse. It's all management....but you are young. |
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07-03-2021, 03:40 PM | #3 | ||
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correct, no surgery.
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07-03-2021, 09:05 PM | #4 | |||
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Hi, welcome to the NeuroTalk Support Groups.
Your chiro back in Jan 2020 mentioned Piriformis Syndrome. Did anyone else that you've seen talk to you about that? edited to add: although the MRIs probably would have picked that up wouldn't they? Piriformis Syndrome Video A good video about Piriformis Syndrome from Spine Health dot Com Also, where are your bulging discs exactly? Last edited by Lara; 07-03-2021 at 09:20 PM. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | glenntaj (07-04-2021) |
07-04-2021, 12:24 AM | #5 | ||
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hey Daniel2,
Your initial front/side thigh symptoms sound like Meralgia Parasthetica. There's plenty of information on here/ YouTube about that condition. Sitting cross legged and nerve gliding are successful management techniques. You definitely have nerve compression issues and I agree with Lara that it's likely to be Piriformis Syndrome giving you Sciatica like symptoms. This is a soft tissue issue and I see that you've learned a chiropractor can't help you. Consider myofascial release. This a link to Elisha Celeste. She has plenty to say about pain and how the body stores pain. And how to release it. Quad and Hip Flexor Release – This ONE Technique Relieves Piriformis, Glute and Tailbone Pain, Pulled Hamstrings and Groin Pain | Mobility Mastery Best wishes, Atty |
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07-04-2021, 08:37 AM | #6 | ||
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thank you for your advice about finding a learned chiropractor that can help me and that video, thank you for that. I have saved it and will try it. One thing I don't understand is why a chiropractic adjustment would trigger an intense trigging of numbness down my right leg, super tight and sore right hamstring, and very tight and sore butt muscles. the adjustment that was done was on the back; so I don't get it. |
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07-04-2021, 11:38 PM | #7 | ||
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Hey Daniel2,
I was actually arguing against a chiropractor. It sounds like the chiropractor somehow irritated your sciatic nerve. This branches from your lower back and you can feel pain anywhere along the nerve pathway down your buttocks (I'm British, I can't bring myself to say butt!) back of thigh and calf. Give that video a go. It may not be for you but it may be a game changer. Please report back your experience. Best wishes, Atty |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Lara (07-04-2021) |
07-04-2021, 08:25 AM | #8 | ||
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lara, I assume the mri would have picked that up; especially the pelvic MRI. from March of this year.
The report from the pelvic MRI is as follows: 1. No acute abnormality is identified. 2. There are degenerative changes in the visualized lower lumbar spine. If clinically necessitated, a dedicated lumbar. spine MRI may be performed. Before I had the caudal injection, I saw an orthopedic doctor. I brought all my MRI's and radiologist reports. they took xrays of my hips, said they don't see anything wrong with hips. The doctors assistant had me do some physical tests with my legs while I was sitting on the table. they did not seem to think it was piriformis. doctor said he thinks its back related even though my MRI's show nothing being pinched in back. he referred me to the spinal pain mgmt doctor who did the caudal steroid to see if the steroids would hit something that that was not being seen my MRI's, explaining that this was just a first step in trying "something" and it might not work, which it did not. Spinal pain mgmt doc said he is considering something in the hips that is trapping the nerve and sent me to a different orthopedic doctor, to investigate that. I meet with that doctor soon. that was a very good video, btw, thanks for that. 2018 lumbar MRI: 1 mm broad-based right paracentral posterior disc protrusion at L4-5. Desiccation within L5-S1 disc. 2020 lumbar MRI with and w/o contrast: 1. Mild diffuse annular bulging the posterior disc contour at L4 through else of L4 and less so at the L4/L5 interest level. 2. Mild diffuse annular bulging posterior disc contour. All the doctors I've seen including the back surgeon said there is nothing in the mri's that show its pressing on any nerve. the back surgeon said this is typical for someone my age and my back looks "pretty good", "go back to playing racquetball" he said. so did the spinal pain mgmt doctor. my legs feel too "wonky" at times do not feel confident playing right now. sometimes too much activity can trigger my symptoms. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Lara (07-04-2021) |
07-03-2021, 03:38 PM | #9 | ||
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thank you for taking the time to read about my issues and respond. Yes, it appears the sciatic never is involved, but thy mystery is what is compressing it. MRI' show its not from the back. I don't have degenerative disc disease. I've tried several different shoes, experimenting with that. I've had two different physical therapist; both seem competent, interested and professional. the 2-3 months of physical therapy I did was fine except certain things I did triggered the sore butt muscles and right leg tingling/numbness. I'm looking forward to seeing what the orthopedic doctor has to say in 2 weeks. thanks again for your feedback! |
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