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Old 08-02-2015, 11:26 PM   #11
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Just curious was is a sample dinner for you?


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Old 08-02-2015, 11:29 PM   #12
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I am sorry it is dawn syndrome. I call it Sundance


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Hi uglogirl,

I will respond as soon as I get back from my doctor appt.

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Old 08-03-2015, 10:53 AM   #14
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I just want to mention while you probably shouldn't be having be having cereal, you don't mention the type of milk. Whole milk is actually preferable for your blood sugar levels. Also, there has been lots of research that artificial sweeteners can cause blood sugar spikes even more severely than white sugar. You might try unprocessed honey, it has a lower glycemic index than processed honey or sugar, and because it is sooo sweet, a tiny bit goes a very long way.

I'm not diabetic but have always been very sensitive to my blood sugar levels--my father was diabetic my entire childhood (the drink of choice in our house was diet Coke and I realized it was spiking and crashing my blood sugar all day when I was in my early 20's.) and my mother developed diabetes in her 60's. When my mom's dietician gave her a food plan, I thought it was still too carb heavy. The American diet has become very focused on processed foods over the past 50 years--almost all of which are carb heavy.

You migh look into eating Paleo. The site I followed when I was doing it strictly was Marksdailyapple.com. The site recommended staying below 50 carbs a day 6 days a week and having one cheat day. Not only is this way of eating protein heavy, there is also a concentration on eating high quality fat.
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Old 08-03-2015, 01:39 PM   #15
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[QUOTE=LIT LOVE;1159693]I just want to mention while you probably shouldn't be having be having cereal, you don't mention the type of milk. Whole milk is actually preferable for your blood sugar levels. Also, there has been lots of research that artificial sweeteners can cause blood sugar spikes even more severely than white sugar. You might try unprocessed honey, it has a lower glycemic index than processed honey or sugar, and because it is sooo sweet, a tiny bit goes a very long way.

I'm not diabetic but have always been very sensitive to my blood sugar levels--my father was diabetic my entire childhood (the drink of choice in our house was diet Coke and I realized it was spiking and crashing my blood sugar all day when I was in my early 20's.) and my mother developed diabetes in her 60's. When my mom's dietician gave her a food plan, I thought it was still too carb heavy. The American diet has become very focused on processed foods over the past 50 years--almost all of which are carb heavy.

You migh look into eating Paleo. The site I followed when I was doing it strictly was Marksdailyapple.com. The site recommended staying below 50 carbs a day 6 days a week and having one cheat day. Not only is this way of eating protein heavy, there is also a concentration on eating high quality fat.[

The Paleo diet won't work cuz of my Cholesterol. This is becoming a real issue.

I drink Diet Coke and am trying to ween my self off it and have lemon and ice water.

My milk is 1% at Giant Eagles Dairymen's milk.

My doc was out of the office and I have a message from him to start a different medication which I will go get today.

The doc that was subbing for him said to take 5 more mgs of Glipizide.

And my extra helping yesterday did not help today my mouth is numb and legs ache a little.

I am going to look into the zone diet and compare with the paleo diet.

Good luck at your Dr's appt.
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Old 08-03-2015, 04:05 PM   #16
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There was a doctor from the Sansum Clinic in Santa Barbara that wrote a book about blood sugar and high cholesterol and said that all of the diet changes to fight high cholesterol have had the opposite effect on patients. There is no evidence that eating high quality fat raises cholesterol levels. (I gave my copy to my mom who has of course never opened it, sigh.) There has been lots of research on this in the past 10 years or so.

Eating low quality fat, highly processed fat is to be avoided, but you want to consume ingredients that are less processed.

So, not only is the cereal an issue, so is the 1% milk. After going Paleo, I never returned to drinking milk, but sometimes use it in recipes. Using whole milk greek yogurt is a better choice, IMO.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy...#axzz3hmdzJrGM

The idea behind Paleo is that everything you eat is nutrient rich. If you're going to eat something high in sugar, it should be something that has lots of additional health benefits like a 1/2 a cup of berries.
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:17 PM   #17
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[The Paleo diet won't work cuz of my Cholesterol. This is becoming a real issue.]


We have some threads on the latest cholesterol & statins info...
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http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...hlight=statins
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I just want to mention while you probably shouldn't be having be having cereal, you don't mention the type of milk. Whole milk is actually preferable for your blood sugar levels. Also, there has been lots of research that artificial sweeteners can cause blood sugar spikes even more severely than white sugar. You might try unprocessed honey, it has a lower glycemic index than processed honey or sugar, and because it is sooo sweet, a tiny bit goes a very long way.

I'm not diabetic but have always been very sensitive to my blood sugar levels--my father was diabetic my entire childhood (the drink of choice in our house was diet Coke and I realized it was spiking and crashing my blood sugar all day when I was in my early 20's.) and my mother developed diabetes in her 60's. When my mom's dietician gave her a food plan, I thought it was still too carb heavy. The American diet has become very focused on processed foods over the past 50 years--almost all of which are carb heavy.

You migh look into eating Paleo. The site I followed when I was doing it strictly was Marksdailyapple.com. The site recommended staying below 50 carbs a day 6 days a week and having one cheat day. Not only is this way of eating protein heavy, there is also a concentration on eating high quality fat.[

The Paleo diet won't work cuz of my Cholesterol. This is becoming a real issue.

I drink Diet Coke and am trying to ween my self off it and have lemon and ice water.

My milk is 1% at Giant Eagles Dairymen's milk.

My doc was out of the office and I have a message from him to start a different medication which I will go get today.

The doc that was subbing for him said to take 5 more mgs of Glipizide.

And my extra helping yesterday did not help today my mouth is numb and legs ache a little.

I am going to look into the zone diet and compare with the paleo diet.

Good luck at your Dr's appt.
Hi uglogirl,

I think you may not have noticed that it was Lit Love responding, not me since you said good luck at my doc appt.

It was a LONG appt. and now I have many more tests added to my calendar. My doc sent orders to 5 or 6 different places for testing procedures so I guess I will be busy for the rest of the month. And this was not my endocrinologist appt. that is scheduled for later this month. Wonder what HE has in store for me when I see HIM. It gets to be a juggling act when you have 8 docs and coordinating them.

OK, back to topic. I took Glimeperide for a while and it would NOT help my post-prandial levels which was the purpose, but it would finally kick in during the night and drop me into LOWS frequently. I would awaken with sweating and shaking and knew I needed to take corrective action. Changed to Glipizide, the one you are taking and did not do any better. This is why I asked about the timing of your meds. You seem to do well during the day and then spike at night during sleep, just the opposite of me. That is when I would crash.

Since I have been on insulin, I am no longer crashing into lows during the night and can make adjustments easily and can predict when the insulin will peak. Still working on getting the dosage at the right amount.

Everyone's metabolism is not the same. Your body may not be breaking down and absorbing your med at the appropriate time.

There is no ONE method or one solution to the body's reaction and blood sugar levels. There are MANY factors that will affect your levels. Not just food.

That is why a doctor may prescribe one particular med for you and prescribe something entirely different to another patient. Diabetes does not have a "one size fits all" treatment plan that works the same for everyone. Treatment must be tailored to each individual and how their body and metabolism works.

I am no doctor but from some of the numbers you have listed, to just increase your dosage seems to me that may lead to lows at the times when your current levels are in the normal range. It appears your biggest challenge is the spikes during the night. Maybe the timing of your meds needs to be changed so that they will work during the night and of course, what you eat before bed will have an effect.

Many diabetics can eat a lot of things that I can't eat without spiking. Everyone is different. A good general rule is to limit the carbs but there is more to it than just that. Even GOOD for you food with little to no carbs will adversely affect one's blood sugar level if portion size is disregarded. Over eat anything and it will have an effect, even good for you stuff. And there is still mystery with diabetes and food intake. I can eat the EXACT same thing and same amount one day and have a totally different response the next day to the same food and quantity. Now that makes me CRAZY !!! The body is a very complex piece of machinery. Maybe my cells were more resistant one day than the other, or maybe I was stressed, or whatever ???

You have had a lot of experience living with this disease but it sounds like this night time spiking is a recent development. Am I correct on that?

You mentioned you will be starting a different med. What is he prescribing for you?

Enjoying talking with you. I am sorry that you are having some STRANGE readings. Sometimes it makes others feel better to know that they are not alone in the battle trying to keep diabetes under control.

Lit Love had some good advice.
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:29 PM   #19
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Hi Hopeless,
I take the morning meds at 9 am and evening at 7 pm with dinner. At night I like a bowl of cereal with a little Splenda.

Last night reading was about 103 had a slice of toast about 1 am and sugar was 144 fasting this morning.

Too my reading now before dinner and is 89


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Maybe try not to use artificial sweetners like Splenda.
35 Yrs ago I had a an MD/Naturopathic type doctor who found I was hypoglcemic. He put me on a diet of ONLY fish, lean meats and vegetables, salads,,water and herbal tea....NOTHING ELSE. He was a brilliant guy and he said our pancreas reacts to artificial sweetners as if they are sugars so I could not use them. He said, just do this for 3 months. He not only controlled my hypoglycemia which had gotten so bad I was fainting, stopping all sugars and simple carbs fixed a chronic UTI problem I had for years...he told me Sugars feed bacteria.

Here is an article by Dr Mercola....a doc much like my previous doc....

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...fuse-body.aspx

I agree with Hopeless that having a nutritious snack like a hard boiled egg or piece of cheese is better. Or, if you really crave bread for toast, have half a slice with almond butter. I know a slice of toast or cereal seem harmless but they do make sugar levels spike. I have a slice of turkey rolled up with a slice of cheese as a snack or some nuts. I had basically been vegetarian but have been scolded by docs for not getting enough protein so I am back to eating some fish, eggs, chicken. I also recently discovered almond cheese which is actually pretty good.
Also a brand of breads and cereals called Ezekial which are made from sprouted grains...very nutritious. Generally found in the freezer section or if a health food store that moves alot of products, like Whole foods or Trader Joes, they may be with regular breads.

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Old 08-03-2015, 11:20 PM   #20
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Thank you Diandra I have to agree with you. I do get my bread at Trader Joe's. Years ago my primary told me about it very low in carbs like 7 per slice plus it is good. I am going to put together a plan and meals. I am resigned that counting carbs does not work for me. It is what I eat. It is a paradigm change for me.





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