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Old 08-01-2015, 11:25 AM   #1
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Hi,
My name is uglogirl and I have Diabetes 2 and Neuropathy. My fasting sugars are high run 160 to 190 and by dinner they are normal. I have had neuropathy for a couple of years And took Lyrica, gabapentim, magneseum, alpha lypolic acid the rest and didn't like any of it so I stopped.

For a period there was a difference the burning, tingling, water and sand in my feet feeling felt better.
I don't know if the twitches and legs jerking were due to the PN or the medications but I don't experience them only once in a while. I stopped taking all the meds cuz after a while they were not helping enough for the side effects.

Most of the time if I have too many carbs within 10 minutes my feet are unbearable with burning, numbness, shooting pains. I am now determined to work at getting my sugar under control. There is a big difference under control the symptoms are tolerable probably a 3 or 4 on a sliding scale.
My DIabetes upon retiring is around 90 to 120 and in the morning it is 170 to 199. I feel it is sun dance syndrome.

Sometimes the inside of my cheeks and lips get numb that is why I came back hoping someone could help me understand. It is scary.:group hug
If anyone has similar issues I would appreciate very much hearing from you.

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Old 08-01-2015, 11:37 PM   #2
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Hi uglogirl,

Your morning levels of 170 to 199 are fasting levels? While sleeping you go from the bedtime range of 90-120 to 170-199 range upon waking?

Do you ever wake during the night and take a reading?

That is quite a jump even with the dawn phenomenon coming into play.

What diabetes meds are you taking? What do your A1C's run? How long have you been diabetic?

What do your readings run two hours after eating a meal?

How often do you test?

Are diet and exercise your only methods of controlling your blood sugar levels?

You did not mention any meds related to diabetes, just for the neuropathy. Do you have any other medical conditions or medications?

Hope to hear from you.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:59 PM   #3
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Hi Hopeless,

Yes that is correct just took a reading and is 109. It will be fine until sometime during the sleeping hours and in the morning like yesterday fasting was 177!

I take 2000 mg of Metformin and 20 grams of glipizide. The dr just added
5 grams of Glipizde two days ago.

My A1C a couple months ago was 7 and a few months before that was a 6.

Readings after with added pill are good 120. Before the added pill not so good 150 to 170. Having smaller dinners this past week too seems to be helping.



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Hi,
Fasting sugar today is 144. Lowest in a long time.where Cani start a new post?


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Old 08-02-2015, 01:01 PM   #5
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Hi uglogirl,

Your numbers are strange for a type 2 diabetic. To have HIGH fasting blood sugar levels and better numbers throughout the day, even post-prandial, makes me wonder about the timing of your diabetes meds and your liver function. Also, what time do you have your last meal of the day before going to bed? Any snack or anything to drink after your last meal?

Are all of your other lab results within normal range when you have a basic metabolic panel done?
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:01 PM   #6
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Hi Hopeless,
I take the morning meds at 9 am and evening at 7 pm with dinner. At night I like a bowl of cereal with a little Splenda.

Last night reading was about 103 had a slice of toast about 1 am and sugar was 144 fasting this morning.

Too my reading now before dinner and is 89


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There is also a thread for uglogirl on our diabetes forum -
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread223949.html
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Hi Hopeless,
I take the morning meds at 9 am and evening at 7 pm with dinner. At night I like a bowl of cereal with a little Splenda.

Last night reading was about 103 had a slice of toast about 1 am and sugar was 144 fasting this morning.

Too my reading now before dinner and is 89


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A simple slice of toast can really raise your level and if you ate that at 1 am and then had a morning level of 144, that is not surprising even though your bedtime level was 103.

Try not to consume ANY carbs after your dinner at 7 PM. If you need a snack later in the evening or during the night, you might try some protein but NO carbs and see if your morning levels come down from those 177-190 levels.

The cereal at night can be attributing to your high morning levels.

If you like cheese or egg, you could try that as a night time snack and see how that changes your morning readings. If you like avocado, that would be a good choice for a snack.

I try to keep a hard boiled egg in the frig for those rare occasions that I get hungry LATE, due to no eating enough at dinner. It gets rid of the hunger but does not elevate my blood sugar readings in the morning.

Do you take your diabetes meds both morning AND evening or all at the same time. You mentioned morning med time and evening med time, but not what meds at each time.

Some diabetics can get away with eating more carbs than others and it depends on the individual. One slice of bread will skyrocket me no matter how much med I have on board.

In the beginning of my diabetes road, I could eat a sandwich for lunch on occasion but as the disease has progressed, sandwiches have been off limits for me for quite some time. My body can no longer handle bread. That is why I asked how long you have been diabetic.

It is a progressive disease and we have to be more and more aggressive with our control as time passes. You may have reached a point where your body can no longer handle a slice of toast or a bowl of cereal, especially if the meds are peaking in their performance at a different time than you are consuming the carbs. (The reason I asked about the timing of your meds.)

Please keep us posted on how things progress. We are here to help any way we can. The complications that go with diabetes can be horrific. Not just the PN, but the entire body and all of its organs.

When I am tempted to eat something that I know has too many carbs, I ask myself if the momentary satisfaction I will get from consuming the item is really worth my eyesight, my kidneys, my limbs, etc. I quickly lose interest in eating that item.

I am far from perfect with my diet and I will indulge in a few items that I know will raise my blood sugar on special occasions, but the thought of the complications help keep me pretty compliant with my food intake.

Even "healthy" foods can make my blood sugar go sky high. I happen to love cabbage but even it will make my blood sugar soar. Just plain cabbage. (NO seasoning or additives of any kind.) Have I eliminated cabbage from my food choice completely? NO. I just don't cook it as often as I would like because my meter has told me that my body does not react well to indulging in it on a regular basis.

I tried going by a list of items from a dietician or nutritionist at first as my guide but I found my meter was the BEST indicator of what I should and should not eat. Everyone is different and their body reacts differently to different food items. Your body will react differently to slow carbs and fast carbs, also.

I do think the cereal and/or toast at night may be factors in your high morning readings.

Let us know if we can help.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:14 PM   #9
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Hi Hopeless,
I have had diabetes for 12 years and Neuropathy for 2 yrs. I take 2 Metformin 500 mg each with 2 glipizide 5 mg each. I do this twice a day.

I had to much dinner had corn and mashed potatoes sugar pre dinner was 89 2 hours after was 139 now it has climbed to 169. I can't imagine what it will be by morning plus it started stabbing random pains in my feet.

I was told I could have 35 carbs per meal plus 2 snacks of 15. I know I do the breakfast and lunch meals it is the dinner meal I have to get .serious about. No more cabs after dinner. An Apple should be ok.
Your right an innocent bowl of cereal and piece of toast Are no good for me. I am beginning to understand that now.

You have helped I did not want to admit it but I am doing it to my self with dinner toast and cereal. I have to adopt ur thinking is it worth it.
You would think a little piece of toast would be harmless wi


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My blood sugar being only 89



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