Fascinating, the idea of shared memory, of recalling ealier lives, of digging up forgotten events through hypnosis. All are likely if we understand time to be simultaneous and not divided into past, present, future as it seems to us. We are then all connected to each other, past, present, (future?) all mankind share a soul that contains our shared memory.
From there it seems quite clear to me that we must br responsible for our own contribution to that memory, that soul. We can choose to live in a way that improves the soul we share, or not - there is a d*** good reason why one should to try to be a good person.
If it were not late at night I wouldn't admit to such a Pollyanna thought - but there it is, I've said it.
And then something entirely different - I remember Paula writing about detatchment long, long ago - and detatchment is what I often feel, not from other people, but from myself. I have always felt temporary, not quite, quite real, and PD is certainly contributing to that detatchment.
There is me, the mind, and I happen to reside in this body. My hands learned to make pots, and the memory is in my hands, but they are still seperate, mine but not as ME as my mind.
This sounds rather depressing, but it is not - not at all. I am a jolly old lady, and even my dreams are so funny I wake up laughing. So somehow I must have stumbled into the dreams in the part of our shared soul where the funny memories reside.

ramble ramble
birte

Most of us who were creative before Pd and now find ourselves less gifted and talented in that department saw signs of Pd on our right side first, but those of us who were more methodical and detailed in our thought patterns before Pd than we are now probably saw signs on our left side first. On the other hand, a recent posting told us that Left brain/Right brain dominance is a bunch of hooey and we are all whole brain thinkers (I disagree with that theory, by the way). Of course, there are those of us who interacted with life equally as well with our left brain as we did with our right brain. It was a coin toss there as to which side Pd showed first.

As far as there being a collective unconscious or collective subconscious into which our thoughts are poured and from which we draw, well you must know my thoughts on that matter since I am now thinking them. On the other hand, we could adhere to the theory that the mitochondria of our cells were once seperate from our humanity and more akin to bacteria which learn almost simultaneously as a group when even one bacterium gathers information. The thing that makes that theory seem possible is the fact that our mitochondris possess their own DNA. Perhaps that is like having a backup power supply just as our cells can work via both chemical and electrical reactions in formulating methylcobalamin in order to maintain our memory.

Which spins my mind out on a tangent and accuses Einstein of being incorrect about light. Everything has its own set of characteristics that, when exibited, allow us to identify it as being whatever it is. If one of the characteristics of light is that it travels at 186,000 miles per second, does that mean that if that characteristic changes the result is something other than light? By the way, does anyone know where light goes when you turn it off?

michael

so many different theory's -so much to expound upon?
has anyone watched a movie with Kevin Spacey in it called
K-PAX, it is about a (space man)
- extra terrestrial's from the planet K-PAX,
Kevin Spacey has a sense of humor that makes his character very believable [called - PROT -rhymes with note.]
it is science fiction but I really enjoy it
-not that I have to believe in any of it...
but Kevin Spacey speaks about "light travel" -and Einstein's theory, about traveling the speed of light.

it is worth watching this is the cover of the DVD


Kevin Spacey tells about how much energy there is in one beam of Light.
PROT would answer your light question like this -
Light is an electromagnetic radiation that has a wavelength in the range from about 4,000 (violet) to about 7,700 (red) angstroms and may be perceived by the normal unaided human eye, so out of this range may be we can't see..
unless you are from a different solar system.

michael -
now you ask a question or are you setting me up for a joke- where does light go when we turn it off?
my answer:
it goes out because it no longer has a connection to the circuit?


where do dreams come from -stimuli of the day collected in our brains, or
is it notes from our soul - or both-
I have heard dreaming is big with us Parkies.
mine are all in color!
well dear micheal, and BEMM
I hope you have peace in your heart,
I'm tired - going to go back and catch somemore Zzz's.

I've seen the movie, really like it too.
And my dreams are all in full, beautiful color too.
Good dreams to all.
birte.

That link you posted on Saturday was great! This business about dimensions in which past, present, future, and spatial distance are irrelevant resonates with me big time. I have to go there when I consider ultimate reality. That is probably heresy for a scientist, but maybe I can get away with it since I'm now retired.

I have a few friends and we get together and toss this stuff around and I love hearing what you all think. Here are a few ideas we have come up with:

The theory of reincarnation may have come from confusion: the spirit world may be so close that we are intimitley involved in the lives of those who are living in "time" (thats where we are now). So we recollect past lives, but they were not actually ours but someone we may have had some spiritual responsibility for. Not unlike the concept of guardian angels...

People who work in family history (Geneoalogy) often encounter people they are doing research about, or looking for. I had a friend who's husband said he would wake up at night to find his wife having a conversation with a "spirit" standing at the foot of their bed. sometimes he would see the shadow of a person and sometimes not. He learned not to be alarmed by this and would just go back to sleep.

Creative theoryof life #1: Each of us is in a virtual reality chamber and non of the rest of you actually exist. This life is just a test to see how far we have progressed in our own spiritual development.

Creative theory of life #2: When we die we will get what we belive we will get because we are creating our own lives and future lives...if you believe in pearly gates and streets of gold then you will go there, if you believe there is nothing after this life and have not invested in spiritual development then maybe this is where you will end....

just thought I'd throw that out to gnaw on for the dogs of dogma.

If you want to read a very interesting book may I recommend "Anthropologist on Mars" by Oliver Sacs. Wish I had more time to write. Birte and Tena, I dream in color too. Vivid color. Satin and pearlesant (??sp) and flourescent and all the good stuff. The dopamine we take contributes to that. Schitzophrenics have too much dopamine. One of the reasons they are so lousy about taking their meds is because it brings down all the bright colors and vivid experience of being schitzophrenic. It sounds like they are on a sort of permanant acid trip when they don't suffer from paranoia and the dark side.... the dark side -now there's another subject we could expound on. I'm dieing to find out whats on the other side of the curtain when we leave this life. JW

Rosebud,

I think this might be the only time that I can speak for everyone and say we all are.

paula

1- the ground rule is that our logical brain has no vocabulary for this and is paralyzed as a result. we are forced to metaphors, parables, poems, and song to express these ideas.

2- a second ground rule is that, if our goal is to understand, we are doomed to fail. after all, we are the finite contemplating the infinite. mathematics says that it would be simpler to put the ocean in a tea cup.

3- if, however, our goal is simply to grasp that which is within our own reach then we have hope. even more intriguing is the possibility that we are not finite at all, but only think we are.

4- we may disagree totally and yet all be right in our views. you all probably know the story of the blind men and the elephant. each was correct in his description yet each was wrong in thinking his view complete.

5- there is a joke about the Scientist struggling mightily up the mountain of Ignorance. Finally, after centuries, he reached the last ledge and, reaching up, grasped the rock and pulled himself up. As he cleared that last bit of Ignorance blocking his sight, he heard the sounds of chanting, prayer, and song. A little old man rushed over, introduced himself as the Mystic, gleefully threw his arms around him, and cried out "at last you've come!"

I love to talk about this stuff but I'm not educated, do I need to arm myself by reading someone before I jump in cold on the discussion. First of all, Rick - What is your favorite subject?

I already like the rules.
Paula

Ok well thank you Rick ....Lol.... I'll start by asking - what does it take to get to another time and how do you get tuned into this network? I'm fascinated but know that we will never figure it out.

Paula