This is very interesting to me because the nutritional oncologist we went to a few weeks ago told us to stop taking the coQ10 we were using (it is terribly expensive AND is the same coQ10 used in the earlier clinical trials for PD which initially showed favorable results, then later the results were mixed)....our nutritionist told us to take hydrosoluble coQ10, a particular kind which we got from epic4health.com. In today's news, lo and behold, Canadian researchers claim hydrosoluble coQ10 combined with Vitamin E (don't know how much) protected neurons in mice given a neurotoxin. The other bonus seems to be a much lower amount of coQ10 in the water soluble form (we were taking a whopping 1200mg a day which is hard to get that many pills down). Here's the link:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/C...064/story.html

but can't tell which one is hydrosoluble. What is the brand name?

TIA

Cal

It's bioQsorb, activeQ extra strength (200mg). According to our guy, it MUST be ubiquinol, not ubiquinone. Ubiquinone is what most everyone takes and it is the coQ our body takes and makes into ubiquinol...if there is something that is making it harder for the body to make that change, this allows you to bypass that step and just take the ubiquinol directly.

One thing about the article that puzzled me was, if you take water soluble coQ, with vitamin E, I thought vitamin E was a fat soluble vitamin. Not sure how these work together in that case.

Lurkingforacure, thanks for the intriguing leads on bioQsorb. I can't find any CoQ10 product on the market called BioQsorb. I did a search for bioQsorb and got 12 hits none of which, as far as I could tell, offered a product by that name for sale. Epic4health*** has a product called Qgel CoQ10 which is water soluble. Could that be the one you had in mind?

Yes, this is it....we get our from epic4health and if you go to their site you will see they offer a discount if you buy more than one bottle!

lurking,

I've been wanting to jump on the CoQ10 bandwagon for quite some time now. At first I was leaning toward Puritan's Pride because they seem like a reputable manufacturer (IIRC, their Unbiquinol form is recommended by Consumer Labs), and because of their good prices. But I got scared away when I learned their CoQ10 Softgels - the supplement I can afford - contain soy lecithin.

The Q-gel products made available by epic4health seem superior, but... man, how does anyone afford the cost??? Curious, how much of the Q-gel hydrosoluble are you taking per day?

Eager to jump on the bandwagon... don't want to bankrupt my family in the process.

Lurking, You are talking about Q-Gel 200mg Double Strength Hydrosoluble CoQ10 from epic4health.com, right?

The suggested dosage use is 1 per day - I'm wondering if that is also what your nutritional oncologist recommended? Taken at a rate of 1 per day that comes out to $35 per month which, with all the other supplements I am taking would bring my monthly supplement expenses to about $200 per month.

It seems to me that with regard to which supplements to take and how much to take we are all groping in the dark.

This is what we take and the dose is from the clinical trial for coQ, I know it's waaaay more than most people take and if we could find one, we would take one with a higher mg per pill. It is hard to take 6 of these a day, every day, on top of the meds and other supplements.

Note: a LOT of the supplements we take are based in some type of oil, and taking so many has caused us to gain an extra twenty pounds! Just be sure if you take oil-based supplements you try to cut back on the other fats in your diet, for awhile, we were wondering what the $#@! was going on until we realized we were eating several hundred calories a day in oil-based supplements. If only they could make them taste like ice cream!

Lurking--Could you tell me which clinical trial for coq10 and give the link? I can't find a trial that established the dose for water soluable coq or the comparable dose of ubiquinol used in your supplement for the 1200 mg of ubiquinone used in the PD trials? I must be missing something. Thanks!

If a pill is ubiquinol, is that the same as water soluble CoQ10