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Old 10-26-2009, 12:30 PM #11
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I have just been to see my GP regarding this matter but wont bore everyone with that other than going for some more blood tests to rule out some vague possibilites. However she printed off the opinion of the second neurologist in his letter to her - it stated that I have dull deep tendon reflexes this is the second time this has been picked up on neurological examination.

In rsearching the available literature on the internet Parkinsons disease appears to do the opposite in that it makes them brisk or hyperactive or doesnt affect them at all. Has anyone got any experience with reflexes etc?
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:11 PM #12
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From neuroexam.com:

"Note that deep tendon reflexes can be influenced by age, metabolic factors such as thyroid dysfunction or electrolyte abnormalities, and ANXIETY LEVEL (emphasis added) of the patient. The main spinal nerve roots involved in testing the deep tendon reflexes are summarized in the following table:

Deep Tendon Reflexes
Reflex Main Spinal Nerve Roots Involved
Biceps C5, C6
Brachioradialis C6
Triceps C7
Patellar L4
Achilles Tendon S1 "

I can totally understand wanting to know if something is going on...but if there is nothing right now, your anxiety is going to drive you to the point where you do develop something. Look up stress, anxiety, worry, and PD as well as the relationship of worry to other conditions such as heart attacks, cancer, etc.

I have always remembered a dear friend's advice to me (she was COO of a huge hospital in our town)..."if you go to a surgeon, you're gonna end up having surgery whether you really need it or not...." I personally fear that going to doctor after doctor actually looking for something will pretty much guarantee that they will find something.
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:53 PM #13
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Default I am taking your situation very seriously.

I would suggest that your job may be causing unbearable levels of stress.If this is the case,try and think of other skills you have so that you can leave this stress behind and do something else for a living. Even changing your job within the authority.may be possible.Not easy to contemplate,I know. Sometimes our body tries to tell us something and we really need to listen to it.I had a dear friend who was a teacher of children who were experiencing difficulties of one kind or another. One day she woke up and could not get out of bed. Her legs refused to move.She did not have P.D,a brain tumour or anything of that nature.It was her body telling her she could not go on.
One thing that P.D has taught us as a couple is that we should all,whether we have P.D or not,make the most of every single day.not to brood on what might or might not happen but live today to the fullest.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:03 PM #14
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Remembering that not knowing what is wrong causes stress, and that this is very new to a very young person, i'm going to disagree a bit and say "ask away about anything. "

I don't think reducing stress is possible when a young person suspects that his/her life could be turned upside down by a neuromuscular illness, altho i know what you meant and how stress does play a part.

unfortunately i don't know the answer to your deep tendon reflex question but if i find out i will post.

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Can I ask for everyones opinion on this idea, if it was YOPD I have had the symptoms for 2 years, they come and go in terms of severity how long would it take if it was YOPD to go worse - would there have been more changes and more decline by now?

If I was to go back to the neurologist would it be wise to wait 6 or 12 months?
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Can I ask for everyones opinion on this idea, if it was YOPD I have had the symptoms for 2 years, they come and go in terms of severity how long would it take if it was YOPD to go worse - would there have been more changes and more decline by now?

If I was to go back to the neurologist would it be wise to wait 6 or 12 months?
that there is typically no improvement in symptoms, so the coming and going doesn't sound like PD. In other words, once a symptom appears, it doesn't go away. This is my understanding...BUT, there are many with PD who are doing alternative things that feel improvement, many post on this board.
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Can I ask for everyones opinion on this idea, if it was YOPD I have had the symptoms for 2 years, they come and go in terms of severity how long would it take if it was YOPD to go worse - would there have been more changes and more decline by now?

If I was to go back to the neurologist would it be wise to wait 6 or 12 months?
I suggest you that to try alternative therapy. You may get some help. I am a acupuncturist and currently treat a patient diagnosed PD, no shake type. He has feels walk weak and wobbling for about two years. I treated twice he has already felt walk and step has much more strengthen and wobbling improved a lot. But still feel weak. He continue his treatment and be able to accomplish his daily work fine(full time job, for age 67yold).
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Not sure if the people who posted on this message are still around and hope it is not frowned upon for resurrecting an old post. But I just happened to login tonight to make another post and forgot I'd started a thread several years ago.

Looking back I was really touched to see all the people who'd tried to help me on this thread, what a cracking bunch of people. Its not until we reflect that we see how helpful and kind some people are and reading through some of my replies I don't think I acknowledged that enough. If any of these posters are still around I just wanted to extend a warm thanks again.

I am still battling the same problems and searching for answers, life has a funny way of turning out doesn't it. I turn 30 next year and this was definitelynot how I expected half of my twenties to be!
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Hello to everyone was recommended this site from a nice lady at the PDS forums, first post here no doubt you receive many posts from the 'worried well' but genuinely feel that something is wrong and would really really appreciate some experts living with Parkinson's to have a quick scan of my post and offer any thoughts, opinions on what to do or where to go next?

I am extremely concerned I may be showing initial signs of parkinsons, seeing as MS has been pretty much ruled out I cannot see what other conditions could cause such symptoms.

Thanks so much

I was a previously healthy young man, I am now 26 and work in quite a stressful job as a teacher but still play sport and go the gym most nights.

I started experiencing symptoms 2 years ago (September 2007) can almost remember to the day. My first symptom was a feeling of weakness running from the right kneecap through the calf and into the foot (basically the leg from the knee downward). It feels as if my leg no longer wants to support my weight properly and I have lost balance on it, some days are worse than others but it is always there and is a very uncomfortable problem and one which cannot be forgotten about. Walking is uncomfortable now because of it and sport even worse. I also expereince parathesia at times in the leg mainly in the foot with feelings of tingling under the skin.

In February of ths year I began experiencing a feeling of weakness in the right arm from the elbow down mainly eminating in the wrist and hand. Again very uncomfortable and constantly there since emerging it feels as though I have to try twice as hard to do everything now with the right hand (which is my dominant hand). I also feel shaky at times almost like a tremor from the inside and the right hand tremors at certain postural positions such as when my wrist is raised up for using a computer mouse.

I went to my GP and he referred me to a Rheumatologist.

In May I was referred to a Rheumatologist I explained my symptoms and fears of possible MS he undertook a detailed neurological exam which was normal apart from minor reduced right knee jerk and inverted supinators of the hands he then ordered further testing including:

Nerve Conduction Tests - Reported as Normal

EMG - Reported as Normal

MRI of the spine - Normal other than "L5/S1 intervertebral disc is degenerate showing loss of hydration, there is also a posteocentral annular bulge here with a tiny posterocentral annular tear. This causes very minor narrowing of the AP diameter of the spinal canal but is not felt to be significant and none of the transiting nerver roots are compressed.

The rheumatologsit concluded nothing was wrong and sent me away. Unhappy I returned to my GP and was sent for an MRI of the brain and full blood work.

Blood work was normal other than slightly raised liver values.

MRI of Brain - Normal other than craniosynotosis of the skull with asymmetry of the left and right skull vault otherwise normal no evidence of mass lesion or demyelination, normal craniocervical junction.

Undeterred I pushed for a referral to a neurologist who is a movement disorder specialist and went privately, upon examination and reading throguh my results the neurologist concluded nothing was wrong after completing his own neurological examination. He ordered more bloodtests including full blood count, sedimentation rate, vitamin b12, copper, ceruoplasmin and thyroid all came back normal.

He also took a look at the MRI of the brain himself and could see no abnormalities.

Still not happy I went for a second opinion to another neurologist, all this brought was that the first neurologist I saw was a "class neurologist" and I have had all the necessary tests. He did state that its plausible I may have had an initial MS attack too small to detect through tests and would have to see what happens and that was no point in worrying - which I found very disappointing. He did his own brief neurological exam and concluded nothing was abnormal.

The symptoms are not going away and are there everyday and are affecting quality of life quite badly especially being an active person.

Many thanks for any help!
It took 2 years for me to get a diagnosis of Parkinsons what a waste of time. But I have now had DBS surgery and working on getting the right programming going. Hang in there.
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26 years old for a pd dx is a bit young but not unthinkable, one of our dearly departed embers had YOPD from 29 years of age, and younger dx have been documented. What bugs me is that you are describing a "hemiparkinsonism", which. Portends a " Parkinsonism" dx. Several of our best have answered to this post,and I can only add that to have a plausible dx, you need a PET scan of your dopaminergic system. Then,you can get to the bottom of your symptoms.
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