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Jim091866 05-17-2010 05:14 AM

Are you taking the brand name or the generic?
 
Just interested based on your dosage you're on very little sinemet for having PD for some 8 yrs. Best of luck in the future, look forward to haring more.

Judith 05-17-2010 06:27 AM

Hi, Jim.

I'm really pleased to report that it's generic. I know how very fortunate I am.

J:-)

indigogo 05-17-2010 10:51 AM

what are the keys to a positive attitude?
 
Hi Judith -

Your experience mirrors my own. I admire your discipline regarding dosage, exercise, and activities.

I have been dx'd with PD for 11 years now; take sinemet 3xday plus amantadine, requip (1 mg 3xday), and celexa. The timing of dosage is inexact (except for the anti-depressant - one every morning!).

I am far more sedentary, but keep an active and engaged mind and life. I'm planning a trip that will take me outdoors and moving for long periods of time; I think regular physical exercise will enhance my well being, but I loathe gym time and live in an area with a paucity of yoga-and-other-type instructors. I had to find something I actually wanted to do in order to get me up and moving - it turns out to be horseback riding.

Attitude is all-important. I think it is a hard thing to promote in a forum like this because it is more easily said than done; it is much more difficult than simply deciding to be positive. Many suffer from depression, and a sunny outlook is difficult for them to imagine. For those who are reading this from a dark place in your life, please note that both Judith and I take anti-depressants; it was not possible for me to find the good attitude that propels me now without first tackling depression and anxiety with medication and talk therapy. I work hard to keep both at bay.

Seems like the ingredients for improving symptoms and quality of life are:

1. A good relationship with an MDS
2. Appropriate medication dosing, not over dosing, for your particular set of symptoms, including mental and emotional symptoms.
3. Any activity that keeps you physically moving and flexing your fine and gross motor skills.
4. If you love to do that activity, your mood will improve along with your physical symptoms. Thus begins a positive cycle of improvement that hopefully leads to happiness.

I think it is a shame that posting about the benefits of positive thinking is criticized; at the same time, I have been one of the biggest critics. I struggle with how to present the good life I have found living with PD to those who find the idea impossible. I tend to err on the side of empathy with those who despair; I know what it feels like, and "positive attitude" are words that leave many cold.

So what's the answer, Forum Folk? What Judith has to say, what she has learned about living well with PD, is really important. What's the best way to communicate the real-life virtues and benefits of a positive attitude to those who are struggling to simply survive?

Because it really is the key to a better life with PD.

Maybe the answer lies within this thread - talking about strategies to remain positive rather than just saying that being positive is important?

What Judith says is so true for me - everyday when I wake up, I make a conscious choice to be positive or not. Sometimes the answer is "no"; more often, now, it is "yes." I'm not sure what tipped the balance for me, but maybe trying to figure out how to grasp the elusive keys to happiness would be a worthwhile exercise for all of us.

lindylanka 05-17-2010 06:17 PM

One of the first and most valuable things anyone said to me on the forums was 'have a good attitude to your PD'. Somebody, I don't remember who, also said that PD is something that makes you look at yourself a lot, and to resist the temptation to do it too much, and instead channel it to something useful. I'm never quite sure about the word 'positive' simply because it implies a negative is what you are being otherwise. Not-so-good is somehow a little less difficult to deal with. ;)

Indigo, I truly believe that your second point, where you say 'Appropriate medication dosing, not over dosing, for your particular set of symptoms, including mental and emotional symptoms' is crucial.

When we are first diagnosed we have starving brains, starved of dopamine, and after a while that evens out. If we are on too much medication we then start to feel we are progressing fast, and this can be misread, in many ways, not just by us but by our medical professionals. Too much medication is as ruinous to our health and mental well-being as too little. But we are novices at the beginning and have a lot to learn, and our doctors should, in a perfect world, be able to steer us through this 'appropriately' ...........

Over and above that I wish that every single person presenting with PD symptoms was, right at the beginning, encouraged to be as physical as possible, and to work with someone who can identify what is happening physiologically. My physiotherapist worked wonderfully with me last year to show me where I was losing function, and how to maintain and improve what is there. However that took nearly seven years to happen. Though I have not needed it yet, I believe the same should be on offer for cognitive and mental aspects of PD as part of a holistic approach to PD, in an ongoing way, but again offered early on, and discussed in relation both to PD and medication regimes, FOR ALL PATIENTS as standard practice.

Judith, thanks for starting this thread. It would be interesting to hear a little more about your recent PD journey.....

Lindy

soccertese 05-17-2010 08:04 PM

judith,
did you try 200mg extended release sinemet and if so, any luck?
obviously if it did you'd be using it.
i'm in my 10th year.
i couldn't tolerate mirapex or requip but am doing well on 100mg 3-4x / day generic sinemet.

trying to work in extended release sinemet but the results are unpredictable, sometimes i feel worse and the affect is never as good as regular sinemet? trying 200mg extended release + 50mg of regular, that seems to work but i ask myself why bother with the extended.

Judith 05-17-2010 09:44 PM

Hi Soccertese,

I hadn't thought much about extended release sinemet because I'm doing so well on my current version. If it seems that I need more or to stretch it out in the future, that may be a consideration. Thanks for the suggestion.

It's helpful to hear that others also have had trouble with agonists and it wasn't just me. Glad you're doing so well on sinemet! For me, it's been a miracle drug.

Judith

Judith 05-17-2010 09:58 PM

Hi Carey,

Thanks so much for your post. I'm really glad to hear that you are doing so well.

Like you, I empathize tremendously with people who are struggling. I know the quiet desperation that comes with depression, both personally and as a friend. I feel that it is ok to vent from time to time. However, pity parties are best if they are brief and not very frequent, because that sort of negativity is like a whirlpool; it can suck you down.

Your point about antidepressants is very important. There is no shame in taking an antidepressant; it doesn't mean you are a nut case. But there is no way to foster positivity when you are depressed.

I will write another post very soon about some of the strategies for a positive attitude and I'm looking forward to hearing what others share.

Thanks for starting this conversation!

Lindy,

You made some excellent points about medication and physical activity. Thanks!

More to come soon,

Judith

soccertese 05-18-2010 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judith (Post 655705)
Hi Soccertese,

I hadn't thought much about extended release sinemet because I'm doing so well on my current version. If it seems that I need more or to stretch it out in the future, that may be a consideration. Thanks for the suggestion.

It's helpful to hear that others also have had trouble with agonists and it wasn't just me. Glad you're doing so well on sinemet! For me, it's been a miracle drug.

Judith

even 0.25mg mirapex would turn me into a zombie, make my symptoms worse and cause my feet to swell.
sinemet works great, but the wearing off is so quick, back to terrific muscle rigidity, pain and brain fog. that's why i'm trying the extended release, to try to even out the doseage/affect.

anyone on just extended release? doseage/times?

Conductor71 05-18-2010 11:12 AM

You may want to just skip it and try an agonist XL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 655690)
judith,
did you try 200mg extended release sinemet and if so, any luck?
obviously if it did you'd be using it.
i'm in my 10th year.
i couldn't tolerate mirapex or requip but am doing well on 100mg 3-4x / day generic sinemet.

trying to work in extended release sinemet but the results are unpredictable, sometimes i feel worse and the affect is never as good as regular sinemet? trying 200mg extended release + 50mg of regular, that seems to work but i ask myself why bother with the extended.




I know what you mean about feeling worse on CR. I just wanted to caution others to tread lightly with Sinemet CR. I have tried it and learned there is a build up effect in your system throughout the day, so it can trigger dyskinesia or other ill effects from having too much peripheral dopamine in one's system. I couldn't figure out why afternoons were hell for me until I read a few articles on it.

I have also had difficulty with agonist side effects but Requip XL is fantastic. I am smooth pretty much all day with that once a day and regular Sinemet.

I also have added Cymbalta XR to the mix and though it is an SNRI (working on Norepinephrine and Serotonin uptake) it clearly helps out with dopamine too. I am taking less Sinemet now as well- it is quite a happy pill! :)

Laura

lindylanka 05-18-2010 11:49 AM

Would like to second Laura's post on CR. I combined the regular and cr for a couple of years, and felt very vague and unmotivated, had no idea that the type of med could also affect things. Now on regular only and much better. Actually it seems better to be on the simplest regime possible.........

When my meds have worked least well is when there are other things going on with health and well-being, some of them can trigger patchy uptake of sinemet.


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