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olsen 07-03-2010 08:38 PM

excess serotonin cells "trick" brain into releasing dopamine
 
Have not read the full text of the article, though the following is part of the synopsis:

"Sudden, uncontrolled movements called dyskinesias—a common side effect of treatment for Parkinson’s disease— are a result of excess serotonin cells in transplanted tissue that trick the brain into releasing dopamine, suggests a new study of two Parkinson's disease patients that received fetal tissue transplants over a decade ago, researchers report in the June 30 issue of Science Translational Medicine"

I guess the question is how do excess serotonin cells "trick" the brain into releasing more dopamine?

from another source:

"...In the new study, using brain imaging, Politis and his colleagues found that the dopamine neurons that decay in Parkinson's disease were restored and functioning in the two patients. But they also found abnormal levels of serotonin neurons within the transplanted tissue.

The serotonin neurons were releasing dopamine, which, when coming from the wrong source, caused the jerking movements.

When patients were given a serotonin receptor agonist, a drug that prevented the serotonin neurons from firing, the involuntary movements ceased..."

http://www.nwpf.org/News.aspx?Item=3397

caldeerster 07-03-2010 09:01 PM

That makes sense
 
But is the second reference (where they posit that it is the serotonin neurons themselves releasing the extra dopamine) something they can actually see? Was this already known - that serotonin neurons are capable of producing dopamine?

Quote:

Originally Posted by olsen (Post 671786)
Have not read the full text of the article, though the following is part of the synopsis:

"Sudden, uncontrolled movements called dyskinesias—a common side effect of treatment for Parkinson’s disease— are a result of excess serotonin cells in transplanted tissue that trick the brain into releasing dopamine, suggests a new study of two Parkinson's disease patients that received fetal tissue transplants over a decade ago, researchers report in the June 30 issue of Science Translational Medicine"

I guess the question is how do excess serotonin cells "trick" the brain into releasing more dopamine?

from another source:

"...In the new study, using brain imaging, Politis and his colleagues found that the dopamine neurons that decay in Parkinson's disease were restored and functioning in the two patients. But they also found abnormal levels of serotonin neurons within the transplanted tissue.

The serotonin neurons were releasing dopamine, which, when coming from the wrong source, caused the jerking movements.

When patients were given a serotonin receptor agonist, a drug that prevented the serotonin neurons from firing, the involuntary movements ceased..."

http://www.nwpf.org/News.aspx?Item=3397


mrsD 07-04-2010 02:10 AM

I wonder....?

It is now known that SSRI drugs (serotonin reuptake inhibitors) over time, downregulate dopamine in the brain. I don't think this is well understood yet, but it appears that the brain senses the excess serotonin and tries to compensate and that involves dopamine. SSRI patients often develop movement disorders of the jaw, face, and tongue that resemble Tardive.
Quote:

Stimulation of postsynaptic 5-HT2 and 5-HT3 receptors decreases dopamine and norepinephrine release from the substantia nigra. A number of drugs are not associated with sexual side effects (bupropion, mirtazapine (Remeron), maprotiline (Ludiomil),[31][32] (some of these are also not associated with weight gain). As a result, sexual dysfunction caused by SSRIs can sometimes be mitigated by several different drugs. These include:
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selecti...take_inhibitor

The brain seems to have some internal balancing system regarding neurotransmitters.

This seems analogous to the transplanted cell excess of serotonin in these PD cases.


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