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"Contrary to the assertions in the blog urinary neurotransmitter testing is quackery. Baseline testing is of no value since baseline value fluctuate greatly from day to day and there is no correlation between baseline testing performed on one day and another. Furthermore, there is no correlation between baseline testing and tests performed while taking amino acid precursors. The monoamine neurotransmitters found in the urine are synthesized by the kidneys and have no correlation with central or peripheral levels. A lab test is only of value if it is interpreted properly. Simply determining if levels are high or low on testing is of no value. Only in side of the 3 phase model of organic cation transporter functional status interpretation is this valid. The only lab doing this is www.DBSlabs.com. Why are they the only one doing this? Because they have the patents on the process. DBS Labs has peer reviewed scientific articles on its web site that discuss what I am saying here. Please read them if you thing labs promoting urinary neurotransmitter testing are legitimate.
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good morning all,

Three stage testing strikes me as a novel idea that is being readily dismissed rather than given inquiry. We have been asking for science. Do we patently (no pun intended) disregard it because it is funded by private interests? "Who ya gonna call....ghost busters?-bd"

This thread haunts me almost as much as the lack of discussion by more educated minds than mine here. Rev123 what is your take? soccertease ? conducto?rd2? anyone?

is stage 3 reliable if stages 1 and 2 oscillate?

md

no opinion, no interest in researching it. i find it alarming that someone who would gain financially from the procedure was pitching it on message boards.

message boards do have to hold the space for the vulnerability of their members....but where do youu draw lines?

and big pharma is altruistic? plenty of discussion there...

hinz was responding to misinformatioon aand knee jerk conclusions. do we judge ulterior motives solely on the basis of profit? seems like the judgement is on profit itself. why not let the science be judged?

you sought my opinion, i gave it. my other uneducated opinion is it's a complete waste of money. but i'm not going to argue with you, there's no way to independently evaluate the value of his lab services.
and then you have to judge the recommended treatments that accompany the lab results.
based on the recommendations described in this thread i'd be very worried.