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Originally Posted by lurkingforacure (Post 908062)

Laura, the link to this article does not work, can you provide more detail? Thanks, lfac

Sorry about that; not sure what happened. I fixed the link in my original post and should work now :)

Looks like the bacteria "steals" host cholesterol and uses it to create some sort of glucose substance. At first I thought food source (bacteria thrive on glucose) but in reading the original it looks like cholesterol makes it more drug resistant.

Here is link to original study; I couldn't glean much more out of it than that -way to technical.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21464244

Laura

whassup with that?

altogether flabergasting.

I need some scientist to say, "Don't be silly, Conductor 71 is out to lunch,"

OR

have them say "....hmmm.. whassup with that? Maybe we should check this out..."

But the silence is deafening.

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Originally Posted by Conductor71 (Post 908083)

I got that as well, the pylori uses the host (human's) cholesterol....which would help explain why PWP are:

1....... traditionally low in cholesterol (true for us at least).....and...
2. ......traditionally low in Vitamin D3 (made by the body when the sun hits the skin, the body uses cholesterol stores to make the vitamin D3 when the sun is on the skin....insufficient cholesterol, won't be able to make D3 (so might want to re-consider those cholesterol-lowering drugs)...and....
3. .....why many have reported reduction/disappearance of PD symptoms when taking antibiotics for something....I always thought it was the inflammation but perhaps it is because the antibiotic is also killing some of the pylori?

Wonder what the effect of methylene blue on pylori is?

Now I've read more....scary, if I got this right:

pylori takes our cholesterol, uses our sugars to modify the cholesterol, and then takes the modified cholesterol and uses it as a "shield" on its cell surface, thus hiding from our body's detection system. Doing this not only allows it to hide from our body's own detection system, but also makes it substantially more resistant to antibiotics, antifungals, and antivirals....the article Laura posted used 25, count 'em, 25 of these substances to test the cholesterol/pylori group!

This really helps explain why most pylori takes several rounds of antibiotics and sometimes you never do get rid of 100% of the buggers.

Could it be?

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Originally Posted by lurkingforacure (Post 908204)

Thought of those first two but hadn't connected it with Vitamin D. Oddly, at same time my my tremor emerged I had high cholesterol and within two years dropped on its own. hmmm...

Have you Google it? Ironically, a meth blue stain is used to id h pylori! Just wanted to remind that it is very difficult to eradicate and at least one study stressed that patients' PD worsened. So anyone inclined to DIY....don't!

Laura

I asked my GP to test me for h pylori but it came up negative. But I'm not sure how effective these tests are. there is someone in the UK who specialises in treating h pylori naturally (with functional medicine). Here is an article by him: http://h-pylori-symptoms.com/resourc...have-h-pylori/

Trixiedee

could this be why curcumin helps

Would fit in perfectly with the idea that neurons are not dead, just not functioning properly, something that seems to be gaining some credence now. Interesting to know how many pwp relate to this idea, and to antibiotics helping for a while..