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Old 04-29-2013, 11:16 AM #11
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Sorry, soapbox got in the way.....50 mg's of standardized L-Dopa from velvet bean or Mucuna (same) each pill is 333 mg 66mg of wjhich are catecholamines (mmm good) and 50 mg is pure L-dopa, so I figured 2 at 100 mg ldopa total would replace 1 25/100 Heromet but it usually takes more depending on your diet and how much you can get across the BBB. I ended up taking it PRN...whenever I needed it.
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Sorry, soapbox got in the way.....50 mg's of standardized L-Dopa from velvet bean or Mucuna (same) each pill is 333 mg 66mg of wjhich are catecholamines (mmm good) and 50 mg is pure L-dopa, so I figured 2 at 100 mg ldopa total would replace 1 25/100 Heromet but it usually takes more depending on your diet and how much you can get across the BBB. I ended up taking it PRN...whenever I needed it.
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sorry again, I made sure to get the dopabean that is Enterically Coated, as you likely know this coating helps ensure the mucuna passes into the upper GI before release thereby avoiding some of the destruction that occurs in the stomach and thus making more L-dopa bioavailable.
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Hello! I hope your wellness level is high today. I used (no longer) Solaray, DopaBean, Mucuna Pruriens and as suggested above I took it with very low doses of Sine CR just for the Carbidopa effect. I never received a carbidopa only script just an idea. I slowly reduced sinemet from 25/100 every 3 hours 24-7 to CR 25/100 BID-2 times a day, to nothing not even mucuna. I felt like I was going to die and believe that I was "walloring" for many months and skating the edge of NMS. I really crawled out of my skin while quitting....just like the off periods but no relief. Now.....I still have tremor, rigidity, and dyskinesia when stressed and a lot of the other PD goodies leading into Stage 3, but I can make love to my wife again (the usual way heheheheh), taste my food instead of car exhaust, pee correctly, not so fatigued, no walloring and no on off, none of the classic heroin addiction symptoms any longer.. I follow a mitochondrial diet and suggest winter cherry or Aswaghanda (same thing) to ease your offs and or anxiety. My progression has slowed dramatically in the past 5 months hopefully because of what im doing but who knows? At the very least Mucuna can replace some of your sinemet doses ( I believe were mostly overdosed) and thereby extend the period of time you have before the big DBS (which I will not do). I don't intend to make anyone angry on this site ( I lurked for a year) but feel that someone doing PD without meds is sufficiently rare that I should put myself up for comparison good bad or indifferent. The greater percentage of complaints across several Neuro type sites seems to be med related and actual PD complaints are taking a back seat.

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are you in stage 3? do you exercise?
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are you in stage 3? do you exercise?
Yoga, Tai Chi, Meditation and just beginning to get Bi-Lateral symptoms when stressed so I Believe im flirting with stage 3 ish. I do a lot of backpacking but that's becoming nearly impossible due to instability and freezing. Very strenuous exercise such as climbing from say 5,000 ft to 7,000 ft gives me symptom relief for 24-48 hours. I also live on the Navajo Reservation and so have NO STRESS, if I leave the Rez for the city PD rears its ugly head in a big way. No stress=symptoms cut in 1/2 and vigorous exercise=fatigue but up to 2 days no symptoms.

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ok,
will stick with my 800mg/day carbidopa/levodopa. seems like you are still in an experiment with an uncertain outcome. were're all different, i'm doing ok on my avg 800mg/day carbidopa/levodopa combo, exercise and supplements, diagnosed in late 2001.
i wake up off, meds kick in in about 30minutes and i'm stage 1.5 most of the day, my estimate. mucuna has never been any better than carbidopa/levodopa for me, levodopa is a synthesized naturally occurring amino acid, who knows what's in the mucuna one buys or it's potency from batch to batch?
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will stick with my 800mg/day carbidopa/levodopa. seems like you are still in an experiment with an uncertain outcome. were're all different, i'm doing ok on my avg 800mg/day carbidopa/levodopa combo, exercise and supplements, diagnosed in late 2001.
i wake up off, meds kick in in about 30minutes and i'm stage 1.5 most of the day, my estimate. mucuna has never been any better than carbidopa/levodopa for me, levodopa is a synthesized naturally occurring amino acid, who knows what's in the mucuna one buys or it's potency from batch to batch?
When a supplement indicates it is "standardized" this typically guarantees the standardized ingredient usually occurs in the amount on the label. All of PD Alchemy is an experiment I just don't let the Dr. do the experimenting. As for L-dopa depending on the brand it may or may not "release" at all. Some generics don't work at all so youre in the same boat there. Additionally since Chjina produces most of our Sinemet (or did) im not sure they can guarantee anything until they make our pet food safe. Good luck with the Sinemet. May your wellness remain high. Also, synthesized and naturally occurring are mutually exclusive, its either one or the other. Mucuna is the naturally occurring form, a far cry from white table sugar so to speak and the actual sugar beet. Have a peacefull day.

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Speaking of unpredictable outcomes...sinemet has a fairly predictable outcome....DBS and Dyskinesia, ill take the maybe over the likely result of Heromet addiction any day. I suggest that if people like their pills and like how they feel and don't mind med increases for the rest of their days then they stick to them and just deal with the side effects knowing full well they will occur.

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ok, i don"t agree with your opinions and it's obvious we could debate the issues infinitum without changing either's opinions so wish you the best.

people went for years without sinemet until it was released in 1970's(?), i'd guess i'd have to go back to accounts of how people did before sinemet, quality of life and how long was your lifespan before sinemet? knowing that would be enlightening.
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ok, i don"t agree with your opinions and it's obvious we could debate the issues infinitum without changing either's opinions so wish you the best.

people went for years without sinemet until it was released in 1970's(?), i'd guess i'd have to go back to accounts of how people did before sinemet, quality of life and how long was your lifespan before sinemet? knowing that would be enlightening.
My apologies, I wasn't aware of a debate just info sharing intended. Sinemet DOES increase your lifespan but for Early Onsets that lifespan can be a few extra years in a nursing home with dementia that is my main concern personally.

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Hi, I would very much like to speak to you on the phone. I have only been diagnosed with PD for 1 1/2 yrs and the doctor has me on 2 25/100 5 x a day with 1 Comtan 4x per day. I can hardly function.. So that is every 4 hrs. It takes about 45 min to 1 hr for them to kick in and then they wear off 45 min to an hr before it's time for my next dose. When I'm off I am so miserable, like others have discribed, I feel like I'm crawling out of my skin, scratching the ceiling and every muscle in my body is tensed, even my mouth and neck where I slurred so bad people can hardly understand me. I told my doctor that it seems like the more I take the more I need... Heromet I think is a good name. Anyway I would like to get more details to take to my other doctor to help me get off this poison and get my life back. *edit*. Other suggestions are also welcome.

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