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reverett123 08-26-2013 05:26 PM

I'm not certain that this is what you have in mind, but my best times are usually the two hours or so after waking and before breaking fast.

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Originally Posted by steve lord (Post 1010196)
You may be right, Soccertese, but just for the hell of it can one of the 18000 one morning on a totally empty stomach , first bite of the day eat a amall bowl of blackberries , check how you feel, walk around, etc and tell me if anything is better , your pleasure, your movements, anything. By the way there was a medical journal article that got into the news severl years ago of one researcher's opinion that those same black or blue fruits, like , blueberries, blackberries etc could prevent progression of PD, something about them counteracting the free radicals or whatever caused by iron.

Steve Lord


steve lord 08-26-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 1010330)
I'm not certain that this is what you have in mind, but my best times are usually the two hours or so after waking and before breaking fast.

Reverett, that is the time of day when our dopamine is highest. Its true of me and I bet its true of everyone, Then we eat breakfast which will contain things that suppress our dopamine. Then we dont feel as pleasurable and have less energy and less of a sense of well being. My dopamine is lowest at night but evidently my serotionin is in a reverse order because in the morning , back in the days I had depression, it was always worse in the early morning, steadily getting better throught the day, until late night it was the best.
So EVerett, what you are saying to some degree verifies the high dopamine diet for Parkinsons, not conclusive , but our first piece of evidence outside of my observations of myself.

STeve Lord

mouka 08-27-2013 10:44 AM

Here's the problem with such diet: PD sufferers have a huge deficiency in dopamine-producing cells. So such a diet would have a minimal effect because of lack of dopamine cells.

steve lord 09-02-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mouka (Post 1010535)
Here's the problem with such diet: PD sufferers have a huge deficiency in dopamine-producing cells. So such a diet would have a minimal effect because of lack of dopamine cells.

Ah, so what is a small amount of cells times two, or times three?

Steve Lord

Jesyc 09-06-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by steve lord (Post 1010379)
Reverett, that is the time of day when our dopamine is highest. Its true of me and I bet its true of everyone, Then we eat breakfast which will contain things that suppress our dopamine. Then we dont feel as pleasurable and have less energy and less of a sense of well being. My dopamine is lowest at night but evidently my serotionin is in a reverse order because in the morning , back in the days I had depression, it was always worse in the early morning, steadily getting better throught the day, until late night it was the best.
So EVerett, what you are saying to some degree verifies the high dopamine diet for Parkinsons, not conclusive , but our first piece of evidence outside of my observations of myself.

STeve Lord

Hi Steve I have parkinsons was diagnosed when I was 27 10 yrs ago. . I'm looking at your high dopamine diet and I'm going to do it. Do you have any ideas on how to make a tasty dressing for a salad ? Thank you
Jessica christie

dilmar 09-06-2013 06:56 PM

Don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by steve lord (Post 1011911)
Ah, so what is a small amount of cells times two, or times three?

Steve Lord

Steve, i don't understand what you are asking or saying here?
I do know that i function well in the morning after my medication and I attribute that mostly due to fasting overnight so the tablets are not competing with food protein.

joedavis 01-24-2014 07:56 PM

im interested!
 
Hi steve,

I'm very interested in your post. I will be trying your diet from tomorrow.

Can you enlighten me on what to look out for with regards to vitamins and supplements as I take a lot of these.

Also. What about caffeine? Im British and we drink a lot of tea which I think helps me with accessing my dopamine stores but what's your experiences around caffeine?

What about exercise as well. Surely that's good for dopamine?

Also do you have any suggestions regarding products to buy as we don't have the same brands etc. As you do in the usa.

Lastly, I think if you posted this on other health forums you'd get a lot more interest.

Thanks

Joe

HarryM 01-27-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by steve lord (Post 1010379)
Reverett, that is the time of day when our dopamine is highest. Its true of me and I bet its true of everyone, Then we eat breakfast which will contain things that suppress our dopamine. Then we dont feel as pleasurable and have less energy and less of a sense of well being. My dopamine is lowest at night but evidently my serotionin is in a reverse order because in the morning , back in the days I had depression, it was always worse in the early morning, steadily getting better throught the day, until late night it was the best. So EVerett, what you are saying to some degree verifies the high dopamine diet for Parkinsons, not conclusive , but our first piece of evidence outside of my observations of myself.

STeve Lord

This is what every day is like for me (bold above).

Waking am hours are the worst - Just the opposite of most others. Any comments or input about this???

StaveFoundation 02-05-2014 11:54 AM

So, while Pumpkin Seeds and Raw Almonds have dopamine in them, they are Dopamine suppressors?

soccertese 02-05-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StaveFoundation (Post 1049068)
So, while Pumpkin Seeds and Raw Almonds have dopamine in them, they are Dopamine suppressors?

Dopamine might compete with l-dopa and dopamine precursors in passing thru the small intestine and the BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER. not sure if dopamine might block the transfer sites in the BBB even though it can't pass thru.
Not sure if dopamine is broken down into another amino acid that can pass the BBB.

the fact that we eat far more protein than we need and that you can fast for days without developing pd systems tells me that the body tightly regulates, at least in a non pder, how much dopamine moves freely in the brain. if it didn't we wouldn't be able to eat any high protein foods, an egg would cause dyskinesias.


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