High dopamine diet

soccertese · 02-14-2014, 08:02 PM

so zanpar, your're advocating the non-conventional, unproven, highly expensive hinz treatment over the inexpensive, proven use of l-dopa/carbidopa? may i ask if you have pd and if so, what if anything you take for it?

i don't think lack of dopamine receptors is our problem.
i'm not trying to get in an argument, just trying to seperate opinion from fact.

steve lord · 06-21-2015, 02:42 PM

My brother is going to eat a couple of bites of blueberries some morning after awakening, on an empty stomach, and report if that not only gives him the pleasure rush in a couple of minutes, but also whether it improves his Pardinsons performance.

Steve Lord

StaveFoundation · 02-05-2014, 11:54 AM

So, while Pumpkin Seeds and Raw Almonds have dopamine in them, they are Dopamine suppressors?

soccertese · 02-05-2014, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StaveFoundation

So, while Pumpkin Seeds and Raw Almonds have dopamine in them, they are Dopamine suppressors?

Dopamine might compete with l-dopa and dopamine precursors in passing thru the small intestine and the BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER. not sure if dopamine might block the transfer sites in the BBB even though it can't pass thru.
Not sure if dopamine is broken down into another amino acid that can pass the BBB.

the fact that we eat far more protein than we need and that you can fast for days without developing pd systems tells me that the body tightly regulates, at least in a non pder, how much dopamine moves freely in the brain. if it didn't we wouldn't be able to eat any high protein foods, an egg would cause dyskinesias.

steve lord · 06-22-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StaveFoundation

So, while Pumpkin Seeds and Raw Almonds have dopamine in them, they are Dopamine suppressors?

I think one gentleman said dopamine cant get into the brain from the bloodstream but even if it did taking too much omeg 9, in nuts puts a big lid on my dopamine production and pumpkin seeds must have a a fatty acid in them our brains are not familiar enough with andn it balks when I eat those seeds by secreting less dopamine as do most seeds I ever ate, that are in the larger type, A kiwi or blackberry, etc, i.e. smaller seeds , and summer squash seeds are fine however. CHia seeds, sunflower seeds, no good.

I believe that if you can eat this diet perfectly for a few days thereafter you can verify these findings for yourself , because when you make a mistake, eat something that suppresses, its obvious, you will start to feel out of sorts, nerves feel jangled, or tired.

Steve

steve lord · 06-22-2015, 04:54 PM

** foods that raise our dopamine do so by rewarding higher survival activity. I should have added that that dopamine rush, such as from blueberries, lasts only as long as it takes to fully digest whatever it is you ate. But there will be a prolonged effect of higher dopamine if we are familiar historically with the type of fatty acids in the food we are eating, since it end up in our brains. That is why fruits and vegetables , all but a couple of kinds that I listed like any kind of soy, either are good dopamine raising foods or are at least close to neutral enough that almost all of them can be eaten. WHy? Because that was basically our diet during evolution for millions of years in the jungle of Africa and our genes evolved to like them, thus our brains perform better. Makes sense to me as everything I do that prehistoric man did a lot increases my functioning and health. And manmade stuff suppresses all my functions, like elecltronic radiation suppressing my neutrotransmiters and immunitiy but cosmic rays increasing same. So the bottom line is evidently the most familiar to us types and levels of fatty acids we eat, the more dopamine we secret.

Steve Lord

steve lord · 06-22-2015, 05:13 PM

The one food that raised my dopamine the most was flax oil. Not because we have great familiarity with eating flax oil refrigderated, but because it contains the type of major fatty acid of green leaves and vegetables, think jungle, alpha linolenic acid, the omega 3 precursor to the ones we most commonly think of, but which may have good effects on its own. I took a tablespoon of it and waited five minutes and got no added dopamine reaction. Then I read this paradox was true for some who are very very deficient in alpha linelenic acit, which I was, but thereafter for 13 straight days I glowed with dopamine for about 3 hours until I finally was no longer deficient in it as signalled by it stopped giving me that extreme dopamine rush, but continued use will cause a constant higher dopamine release on average than if you discontinue, just not tht overwhelming rush.

Steve Lord

vistrel · 09-23-2016, 07:58 AM

Steve Lord

Steve, a lot of what you say makes sense. Would you recommend spices that don't crush dopamine ?

Also, could you post your sample daily menu plan. I am consistently experiencing surge of dopamine when eating black grapes with food containing little to no fat. Actually, lots of book on dopamine/serotonin/happiness disorders recommend diets low in fat, which makes sense. Unless it's a Omega-3. I found nice combo: white potation + salmon sauteed in olive oil + broccoli.

Aunt Bean · 02-01-2013, 01:59 PM

Lemonlime...your research is closer to the list of foods I have found. Many on the original post did not correspond with my findings and the way I have chosen to eat.

steve lord · 06-20-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemonlime

I was just researching foods that increase dopamine last night. We are intrigued by the banana and will try it, among
other foods listed, as a daily supplement, to see if it has an effect.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/34...ne-production/

FOODS THAT INCREASE DOPAMINE PRODUCTION

Low dopamine levels can cause depression, food cravings, loss of satisfaction and motor control as well as poor attention and focus. The brain produces dopamine from an essential amino acid called phenylalanine that it converts into tyrosine in order to synthesize dopamine. Foods that contain phenylalanine or tyrosine and increase dopamine naturally include bananas and high-protein foods such as cottage cheese and meat.
HIGH-PROTEIN FOODS
Dopamine is important for motivation, sexual arousal, healthy assertiveness and the proper functioning of the immune and autonomic nervous system. The University of Maryland Medical Center reports that research indicates stress may diminish the body's capacity to make enough dopamine-producing tyrosine from phenylalanine. Eating foods high in protein is important because the body makes amino acids from protein, which raises the levels of tyrosine in the blood. Foods high in protein include chicken, turkey, soy products, fish, yogurt, cheese and cottage cheese.

According to the Franklin Institute, while eating a carbohydrate-high morning meal has a calming effect because it releases tryptophan in the blood, a high-protein breakfast that raises tyrosine levels can keep you alert, motivated and energized for hours. Your breakfast can be composed of two groups of protein foods. Complete protein foods such as meat, fish, poultry, yogurt and cheese have all eight essential amino acids, whereas legumes, grains, nuts and seeds are incomplete proteins and offer only some of the essential amino acids necessary to the production of dopamine.
BANANAS, APPLES AND WATERMELON
Bananas, especially ripe bananas, are a good source of dopamine. The brown spots on a ripe banana indicate places of high concentrations of tyrosine responsible for the production of dopamine. Ripe bananas can be mixed with yogurt or milk and honey to disguise the ripe taste some people find unappetizing.

Watermelon is another fruit that can raise dopamine levels naturally. It contains great quantities of vitamin B-6, which the body uses in its production of neurotransmitters, including dopamine. Apples contain the antioxidant quercetin that protects the body from free radicals that can destroy dopamine.
BEETS AND AVOCADOS
Beets contain the antidepressant betaine that stimulates the production of SAM-e, or S-adenoslmethionine, essential to the body's production of hormones such as dopamine. Avocados not only increase dopamine levels in the body, the healthy fats they contain increase levels of endorphines, which are also pleasure-stimulating chemicals. Because dopamine is readily oxidized, fruits and vegetables in general, because they are rich in antioxidants, help protect the neurons that use dopamine from free radical damage.
NUTS, SEEDS AND BEANS
Eating nuts and seeds, especially almonds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds and sesame seeds, helps increase dopamine levels in the body. Beans and legumes are rich in protein and also favor the production of dopamine, in particular lima beans.
WHEAT GERM
Wheat germ is a good dietary source of the essential amino acid phenylalanine that the body uses to convert to tyrosine so that the brain can produce dopamine. Wheat germ can be sprinkled on yogurt or baked into muffins

I see meat on this list of recommendated raise dopamine foods. Anyone I believe can quickly dispel this notion. Wake up in the morning, eat a couple bites of blueberries, wait two or so minutes til you feel the dopanine glow, then eat one bit of meat. Several minutes you will lose that glow as the meat and its fat hits the blood stream. BLueberries enliven a person, meat makes people feel tired, like taking a nap. I guess if you are DEFICIENT in protein, it would be necessary to eat some protein in some form to create some dopamine but virtually no one is deficient in protein and if so, there are non dopamine suppressing ways to correct it. WE dont need to read big studies to determine what increases our dopamine. WE have perfectly good test subject in ourself. Eating meat will not raise your dopamine, it will suppress it beginning in two to five minutes, unless you are malnouished in protein.

Steve LOrd

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