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Old 11-13-2011, 09:12 AM #1
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Default Lower or Upper?

Does your lower body give you more problems, or your upper body? We are often defined by whether we have one-sided difficulties (bilateral=not pd).

Think not just movement, but other symptoms too......... it would be interesting to have a perspective on this, top or bottom making the most impact on daily life.......

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Default good topic

I would say lower, primarily due to leg weakness.


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Does your lower body give you more problems, or your upper body? We are often defined by whether we have one-sided difficulties (bilateral=not pd).

Think not just movement, but other symptoms too......... it would be interesting to have a perspective on this, top or bottom making the most impact on daily life.......

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My legs are only a little affected. My arms are badly affected. The biggest impact on the quality of my life, however, comes from non-motor symptoms such as constipation.

Initially my left side was unaffected. About 4 years after diagnosis problems started there too, but they lag behind those of the right. I think that it is normal for PD to start on one side, but to become bilateral.

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Default Upper body subtype?

Now's a good time, I think, to revisit Lindy's thread.

Reading Nan Cylist's account, in another thread, of running down the road to pick-up her cross country skis even though, as she pointed out, she found typing difficult, resonated with my own experience. I can run, but I find it difficult to type; I can play tennis, but I find it difficult to get dressed. My posture is bad. I also have many non-motor symptoms: constipation, urinary urgency, etc. Interestingly, although all my original symptoms were on my right side, my lefthand tremor is now worse than my right.

In effect, I have upper body Parkinson's - almost 8 years from diagnosis I have almost no symptoms in my legs, but both stiffness and tremor in my arms.

To try to capture what I mean on a scale of 0 (no symptoms) - 10 (symptoms are so bad that you can't do anything with that part of the body), my scores would be:

my best, "on" results
Upper body, left stiffness=1, right stiffness=4; left tremor=1, right tremor=1
Lower body, left stiffness=0, right stiffness=1; left tremor=0, right tremor=0

my worst, "off" results
Upper body, left stiffness=4, right stiffness=7; left tremor=8, right tremor=3
Lower body, left stiffness=0, right stiffness=2; left tremor=0, right tremor=0

I'll be interested to hear the experience of others.

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Default Really great topic

I would say my symptoms were primarily on my right side but I presented with a tremor and not 6 months later had a painful dystonic foot that emerged at first during exercise then would crop up from just walking.

The most I have ever noted top or bottom weakness is that in between med dosages, I have noted either upper or lower body weakness. It is like there is competition for levodopa. Either my legs feel detached, so weak I cannot walk, or I struggle to sit up in bed because arms are limpid. This happens maybe once a day. Rarely is there any tremor then.

I only have dystonia upon waking and stil confined mainly to right foot but right leg can go dystonic now too.

I do get motor blocks with both legs feeling beyond weak, and I am cannot walk. This appears independent of med dosage and I think is panic, glucose, or potassium related.

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Age at diagnosis: 40
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Default `The vagus nerve

I think that the role of the vagus nerve in PD needs much greater consideration in light of its relationship to non-motor symptons. It is almost as though it were a bridge between the conscious and sub-conscious minds. It is one of the largest nerves we have and runs from the cranium down into the abdomen, essentially joining the upper and lower bodies. It is deeply involved with our enteric system and can account for constipation and slow gastric problems. It is wrapped up with our emotions as in that tightness in our gut that comes with stress. Also our sexuality as in the Kundalini. Our cardiac system is there too and when we pass out from syncope or orthostatic hypotension the vagus is involved.

When the vagus is "dead", my legs just don't work. This is what I feel when I am coming on. I find that stimulating the vagus can hasten that switch between "on" and "off". There is an implant available but there are also other means ranging from the erotic to the athletic. I will let you work out the details of the former yourself but will share some things from the latter.

Take a time when you are in limbo between on and off. Lie in the floor and elevate your feet on the sofa. Attempt a situp just like back in high school. Don't worry about actually doing one. The important part is to tense as much of the muscle structure in the abdomen as you can. Experiment as to times and so on and see if your transition period is affected.

This is a little-studied area of PD that has a lot of overlap with "non-motor" problems plus a link between critical areas of physical function and emotional storage - the heart ("broken"), the lungs ("took my breath away", the esophagus ("couldn't swallow that one"), the stomach ("fear in the pit of"), the gut ("my gut tells me...") , the lower back , sciatica, the kidneys, sexuality, all are linked by the vagus.
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